Re: critters > fence ideas

Absolutely - you GO Kitty.  ha ha

On 6/27/07, Donna <gossiper@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> might charge the batteries up on the camera too... you know, a picture
> tells a thousand words while they are tillting the posts......
>
>
> Donna
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:45:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas
>
>
> Judy, you are an angel!
> And the rest of you who suggested the cops.  I decided that since the
> liaison officer wasn't responding, I should call the desk seargent.  He
> sent
> an officer out within a half hour.  As I was showing him the damage and
> the
> proof it was my property, the kids showed up.  He told them they weren't
> to
> step foot on that area again, that I had documentation of ownership and
> they
> weren't to bother any fence I erected there.  and that if they did, they
> were going to the juvenile detention center.  He gave me a report number
> and
> said he'd check by on the dates I am putting up the fence.
> So now I have some "history"
> Thanks for the suggestion!
>
> Kitty
> neIN, Zone 5
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Judy Browning" <judylee@lewiston.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas
>
>
> > Oh, that is sweet. Doesn't it feel great to get more than you expect.
> > You might let the local law enforcement know about the prior
> > trespassing/vandalism if you haven't already. Then if they destroy or
> > damage this one they have some history.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas
> >
> >
> >> Update!
> >> They surveyed the lot today and it turns out that my neighbor placed
> his
> >> fence within about an inch of the property line, so the whole 80 inch
> >> wide area between our fences that the kids are abusing is ALL
> MINE!  One
> >> utility pole is completely on my property while the other is on the
> line.
> >> I was trying to figure how to work my fence in alongside his
> >> when...DUH...I don't need a 64 foot fence.  All I have to do is put an
> 80
> >> inch wide fence at both ends and I'm done.  4 posts instead of 10. 2
> >> panels instead of 8.  There's still the cost of the post-hole digger.
> $20
> >> for a truck to get the materials home and $25 for the permit (and of
> >> course the $225 for the survey) but it is coming out more reasonably
> than
> >> I expected and won't take the whole weekend to build!
> >>
> >> Kitty
> >> neIN, Zone 5
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zemuly@comcast.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:06 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas
> >>
> >>
> >>> How lovely to live next to the "Planned Parenthood Poster Kids."  I
> can
> >>> soooo identify with you.
> >>> zem
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jesse Bell" <silverhawk@flash.net>
> >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 7:32 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT]critters > fence ideas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Wow Kitty...that's one of the MANY reasons we live out in the
> country.
> >>>> You don't have to deal with neighbors like that. And kids will be
> kids,
> >>>> but parents need to teach them manners and boundaries as well. When I
> >>>> lived in K.C. I had a sidewalk in front of my house and then a green
> >>>> area of grass beyond that..until it hit the curb to the street. The
> >>>> sidewalk and that green strip supposedly was city property, but it
> was
> >>>> still your yard. People would walk their dogs, let them poop there,
> and
> >>>> continue walking. They never scooped up their animal's mess. Some of
> >>>> these dogs were BIG - a great dane, standard poodle, lab and airedale
> >>>> terrier. I had to mow that area and keep it nice and it just made me
> so
> >>>> MAD when they did that. I put a little sign out there that said
> "please
> >>>> scoop if your dog poops", they just knocked it down. Very
> frustrating.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You need a James Bond type fence. One that will lower to the ground
> for
> >>>> the utility company, and one that will shoot water at the neighbors
> >>>> kids
> >>>> when they walk by!!!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>  So sorry about the babies Jesse.
> >>>> as for critters....
> >>>> My property had a chain link fence across the back west end that was
> >>>> barely
> >>>> noticeable until several yrs ago the new neighbor limbed up all the
> >>>> huge
> >>>> pines I enjoyed as a 'borrowed' backdrop and installed a privacy
> fence.
> >>>> The
> >>>> 2 fences, about 7ft apart due to easement allowance looked dumb so I
> >>>> took
> >>>> mine down. Kids from the east started cutting through my garden to
> take
> >>>> the
> >>>> easement behind the houses as a shortcut to the school bus stop. So I
> >>>> refenced, leaving a gap below for the cats to come and go.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now the kids are coming through from the north and south traveling
> >>>> through
> >>>> the back of my yard as a shortcut. they drop trash, have dug holes,
> >>>> buried
> >>>> something, have killed the groundcover, and congregate back there. I
> >>>> don't
> >>>> want them there; I want my privacy. I fenced off both ends and they
> >>>> tore it
> >>>> down and brought their moms over, one of which who puffed away
> >>>> profusely on
> >>>> her cigarette, stinking up my yard while yelling at me that the
> "path"
> >>>> belongs to the city. the other mom yelled at me for a good 1/2 hr
> that
> >>>> her
> >>>> kids have every right to walk through there, calling me a b**** at
> >>>> least a
> >>>> dozen times. She also made note that I have no property rights
> because
> >>>> I
> >>>> don't have a "partner" and I am "old" and that my yard is an
> overgrown
> >>>> trash
> >>>> heap. And she says that, oh no, she would never sue me if her kid got
> >>>> hurt
> >>>> back there.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, I have to spend more money. The surveyor should be here within a
> >>>> week
> >>>> to mark the exact line and a privacy fence is going up. I showed my
> old
> >>>> survey to the city planning office and she said I can build a fence
> up
> >>>> to
> >>>> 7ft high on the property line. Since the neighbor has his very close
> to
> >>>> the
> >>>> line it may pose a hindrence for the utility access. So depending on
> >>>> how
> >>>> close he is to the line I may ask if I can simply tie in to his
> fence,
> >>>> but
> >>>> apparetnly he likes the kids and isn't a fan of mine so I doubt he'll
> >>>> agree.
> >>>> If not and I build a fence, I'd like to engineer something
> sectionally
> >>>> removable to aid the utility people.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have any ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> Geez critters are a lot easier to deal with. They came through again
> as
> >>>> I
> >>>> was writing this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kitty
> >>>> neIN, Zone 5
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Jesse Bell"
> >>>> To:
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:55 AM
> >>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Re: critters
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks. I'm such a sucker for critters. I love them all. (except
> >>>>> snakes
> >>>>> and spiders, but they aren't really critters)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lynda Young wrote:
> >>>>> Oh, Jesse - I'm so sorry.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lynda
> >>>>> Zone 7 - West TN
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]
> On
> >>>>> Behalf
> >>>>> Of Jesse Bell
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:29 AM
> >>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>> Subject: [CHAT] Re: critters
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't know!!! But it's not over yet.
> >>>>> My baby turkeys didn't make it. They are so hard to raise when they
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> that little and have been under stress. I did everything I could
> >>>>> do.....sadness abounds today.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bonnie Holmes wrote:
> >>>>> Why not?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> [Original Message]
> >>>>>> From: Jesse Bell
> >>>>>> To:
> >>>>>> Date: 6/20/2007 4:56:51 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Crab watch
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I haven't had a moose or a hedgehog.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Pam Evans wrote:
> >>>>>> oh what a riot and I would love to see a picture! Jesse dear, is
> >>>>>> there
> >>>>> any
> >>>>>> critter smaller than an elephant and larger than a fire ant that
> you
> >>>>> haven't
> >>>>>> had as a pet at some time in your life? You're so funny.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 6/20/07, Jesse Bell wrote:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > That's right! I forgot about that. I had several shells in my
> >>>>>> > container
> >>>>>> > and it seemed like they played "musical shells" a lot. They would
> >>>>>> > try
> >>>>>> > on
> >>>>>> > shells until they found just the right one. And when it left it's
> >>>>>> > old
> >>>>>> > shell, one of the other ones would go try his shell on for size.
> >>>>>> > Too
> >>>>>> > funny.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > james singer wrote:
> >>>>>> > Well, if it hasn't moved by morning, I'll go buy it a couple of
> >>>>>> > additional options. Thanks for the advice.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Andrea Hodges wrote:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > > We used to keep a variety of empty whelk shells available for
> >>>>>> > > them
> >>>>>> > > (had them in a touch tank at the Museum in Charleston) and they
> >>>>>> > > would
> >>>>>> > > run around checking each on out before they chose. You might
> need
> >>>>>> > > a
> >>>>>> > > couple more shells Jim. Those little guys can be picky
> sometimes!
> >>>>>> > > A
> >>>>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > To: "Garden Chat"
> >>>>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:22 AM
> >>>>>> > > Subject: [CHAT] Crab watch
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > >> Ms Fatma is baby-sitting a hermit crab this summer. A week or
> so
> >>>>>> > >> ago
> >>>>>> > >> we noticed that it seemed a bit large for its shell, so we
> >>>>>> > >> purchased
> >>>>>> > >> a larger one at a local souvenir shop. For the first few days,
> >>>>>> > >> it
> >>>>>> > >> dragged the new shell all around its tank--into its water
> bowl,
> >>>>>> > >> into
> >>>>>> > >> its food bowl--like it was introducing a new chum to the
> >>>>>> > >> neighborhood. Well, last night, it parked next to the new
> shell,
> >>>>>> > >> opening to opening. We think, maybe, it's going to move into
> the
> >>>>>> > >> larger shell today or tonight.
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> Island Jim
> >>>>>> > >> Southwest Florida
> >>>>>> > >> 27.1 N, 82.4 W
> >>>>>> > >> Hardiness Zone 10
> >>>>>> > >> Heat Zone 10
> >>>>>> > >> Sunset Zone 25
> >>>>>> > >> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >>>>>> > >> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
> >>>>>> > >>
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> >>>>>> > 27.1 N, 82.4 W
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> >>>>>> > Heat Zone 10
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> >>>>>> > Jesse R. Bell
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
> >>>>>> > I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
> >>>>>> > and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing
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> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Pam Evans
> >>>>>> Kemp TX
> >>>>>> zone 8A
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>> That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon
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> >>>>> Jesse R. Bell
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives.
> >>>>> I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
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> >>>>> That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon
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> >>>>>
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> >>>>> I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends
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> >>>>> That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon
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Kemp TX
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