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havRe: bermuda grass


I have also read that if you cover weeds with green house plastic, the
weeds will die from too much sun and too little water.


> [Original Message]
> From: james singer <islandjim1@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 5/27/2008 11:24:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] bermuda grass
>
> I always figured it was UV and not sunlight per se that did the job,  
> but I don't know. My bro, who lives in the foothills above Ventura  
> grows most stuff in containers. At the end of every growing season  
> [Oct-Nov] he dumps the soil from the containers on a cement slab,  
> covers it with clear plastic, and lets it cook until spring when he  
> loads it back in the containers. He swears he never has weeds.
>
>
> On May 27, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Kitty wrote:
>
> > Here in neIN, solarizing isn't a good bet because our skies are  
> > frequently cloudy.
> > Good thing I didn't know that back in 1990, because being a newbie  
> > at all this I decided to give solarizing a shot.  It worked superbly.
> >
> > The previous owners had had a nice-sized vegetable bed, which had  
> > gone unused fro nearly 10 years.  I'd hacked it down and pulled  
> > Canadian Thistle and Bindweed and every other weed you can think of  
> > for a few years and it all came back with a vengence.  Then I read  
> > an article about solarizing.  I followed the instructions closely  
> > down to the correct mil of plastic and tightly sealing the edges.   
> > Fortunately we had an unusually clear, hot summer, and boy did that  
> > bed cook!  It killed the bad stuff and created excellent conditions  
> > for future use.
> >
> > Yes there were still a few stragglers around the edges, but I  
> > finally gained control and eradicated weeds that are virtually  
> > impossible to kill around here.
> >
> > Kitty
> > neIN, Zone 5
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
<islandjim1@comcast.net 
> > >
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] bermuda grass
> >
> >
> >> Has anyone tried to solarize this stuff--that is, covering it with a
> >> sheet of clear plastic and letting it cook?
> >>
> >> On May 27, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Patricia wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have done it on every garden bed I have had in New Mexico,
> >>> Missouri and now Oklahoma for the last 18 years.  There are a few
> >>> tricks that help. First use at least one inch deep of paper... that
> >>> is a lot of paper..... keep it moist... use at least 3 inches of
> >>> grass clippings.... this is a lot of grass clippings... and then at
> >>> least 2 inches of mulch.  It is really important to keep it moist
> >>> until the papers and the grass began to deteriorate and make a mat,
> >>> then be sure to go around the edges with round up every 2 weeks
> >>> would be the best.
> >>> It is a lot of work but not as much as digging it out would be for
> >>> me.  The biggest benefit is the soil in about a year.  The papers
> >>> break down into carbon and draw the worms, they work the soil and
> >>> make the most wonderful loam.
> >>> I get newspapers from a lady that takes care of all the newspaper
> >>> racks in town, grass clippings from mowing services and free mulch
> >>> from the dump. All free for me but it takes tons to get it done.
> >>> My sister did it too and it didn't work for her so I know it is bad
> >>> when it doesn't work but if the grass starts to peak out you just
> >>> put down more mulch.... also be sure to not butt the papers
> >>> together... overlap so that NO sun can reach the soil.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Bell" <silverhawk@flash.net 
> >>> >
> >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:55 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] bermuda grass
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I tried that Tricia...made it even WORSE.  My Bermuda came back
> >>>> with a
> >>>> vengeance.  I ended up dozing that garden down to the ground.  Got
> >>>> tired of
> >>>> trying to get rid of the horrid stuff, and feeling guilty about my
> >>>> garden
> >>>> looking so bad.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: Patricia
> >>>> <pdickson@sbcglobal.net>
> >>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008
> >>>> 12:42:17 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] bermuda grass
> >>>>
> >>>> or put down newspapers keep
> >>>> them wet ... cover them with grass clippings....
> >>>> then mulch.  I promise this
> >>>> will work ... just put on more stuff and keep it
> >>>> damp.. the worms will come
> >>>> and work the soil and no chemicals
> >>>> Tricia
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> >>>> "james singer" <islandjim1@comcast.net>
> >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Sent:
> >>>> Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:41 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] bermuda grass
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> RoundUp.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On May 21, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Theresa G. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> OK-
> >>>>>> Need some
> >>>> advice on how to get rid of this stuff- by any means
> >>>>>> necessary.  It has
> >>>> taken over an asparagus patch at my friend's  house.
> >>>>>> I realize we may also
> >>>> end up having to kill the asparagus  trying to do
> >>>>>> away with the bermuda
> >>>> grass- but at this point, we'll  do whatever it
> >>>>>> takes.
> >>>>>> Thanks-
> >>>>>>
> >>>> Theresa
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>> Island Jim
> >>>>> Willamette Valley
> >>>>> 44.99 N 123.04
> >>>> W
> >>>>> Elevation 148'
> >>>>> Hardiness Zone 8/9
> >>>>> Heat Zone 5
> >>>>> Sunset Zone 6
> >>>>>
> >>>> Minimum 0 F [-15 C]
> >>>>> Maximum 86 F [30 C]
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> Island Jim
> Willamette Valley
> 44.99 N 123.04 W
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