Re: dulcinea's heart and mine

Hmm- interesting. Well since I'm zone 8-9 I feel totally dismayed that I can't get any snapdragons to come back in spring. Wonder why?? 
Four oclocks on the other hand grow like weeds and never stop.
Theresa

Kitty wrote:
A. 'Dulcinea's Heart' is a cross between Antirrhinum braun-blanquettii and Antirrhinum majus. Antirrhinum majus, the common garden snapdragon is supposedly hardy iin Zones 7-10, but is always grown as an annual here. 
Antirrhinum braun-blanquettii is hardy zones 4-10
http://www.anniesannuals.com/plants/plant_display.asp?prodid=54
http://www.robsplants.com/plants/AntirBraun.php
I've read that the species tends to sprawl, but DHeart stays upright.
Theresa, there are lots of plants that the general public believes contains only one species - the one that is marketed. I thought snaps were annuals too. When I came across this, I thought wow!, had to try it. Same with the Mirabilis (4 oclock, Marvel of Peru). But there are hardier species.
BTW, re the Mirabilis. Last fall I potted up 10 fat tubers that had grown from volunteer seeds and overwintered them in the garage. I also stored 10 loose tubers in moistened vermiculite, then potted those in spring. Every one of them came back. They're thought to be an annual here. 


Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa G." <macycat3@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine



Here is a really goofy questoin- but you are talking about a snapdragon
right?  I've never ever had them return a second year.  I always thought
they were annuals???

Theresa

Kietty wrrote:

Weell, sI dug ait up.  Re Daryl's mention of soil moisture, that
aspect seemed ideal.  It wasn't wet, wasn't dry - seemed just right.
Mulch was only perhaps a half in thick.
Roots were nice and white, nothing appeared rotted.  The base is solid
and woody.
I had planted a dwarf Amsonia next to it at the same time last year
and it is doing beautifully.
I potted what is left of it up; removed all the dying material. We'll
wait and see.
Gosh, I wanna order another one really bad.

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine



Based on  the pictures... it's gonna die if you don't do something.

If it were mine, I would dig it up, wash all the dirt off the roots,
repot it
in a pot with fresh good soil, if I didn't see what was causing this by 
digging it up and looking at the roots. (maybe some critter is eating
the root
shoots?)  I would also get my joy dishsoap out, deluted with water,
and spray
the heck out of it and leave it in the shade for a few hours, then
rinse it
off....

Sometime I have success doing this, sometimes it kills it within 24
hours....

other thoughts-   Have you fertilized in that area and it got too much
recently?  Definately looks like something soil/root issue as it is
dieing
from the ground up.....or maybe it is too wet of an area?

I am sure someone else will have a better suggestion than me....

Donna


--- On Sat, 6/6/09, Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:


From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 9:48 AM


Maybe, but I don't recall, Donna.  Here are some pics:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmrsy/

I don't like Flicker, not as easy as yahoo photos was.  If that link
doesn't
take you directly to the pics of the snapdragon, click on the set
tiltled
"befuddled".

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine



Did you ever have issues with Verticillium Wilt near where this is
planted?
Although this is more of a tree/shrub issue, according to Kemper, it
lists
this for that plant.
http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/PlantFinder/Plant.asp?code=C851

Feel lucky you enjoyed it for 2 seasons.  A few years ago a garden
center
around here was selling a similair one claiming to be hardy. I didn't 
believe

it, but the sale was on so I tried it.  Didn't over winter for me.

Donna




--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:


From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
Subject: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:17 PM


are broken.

I ordered zone 5 hardy varieties of Antirrhinum, Mirabilis, and
Pelargonium
last year from HCG, not sure I believed their promises.  The Pel just

didn't

feel at home, limped along, and gave up.  The Mirabilis had a weak
start,
survived, no flowers, but managed.  It came back hale and hearty
this year,

so

I am hoping for flowers.
But it was the hardy snap, 'Dulcinea's Heart', that blew me away. She bloomed, never stopping, from May until October. On New Year's she was 
still
green. By spring, the thick crown was battered and brown, but she put 
forth

new growth quickly when the weather warmed.  She is covered in
blooms! But
she's withering fast recently.  Her leaves droop and she is dying
quickly
now.  It's so sad.  I don't think she'll last much longer.

Anyone have any idea what could be happening?
Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
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