Re: dulcinea's heart and mine

Theresa - snapdragons are hardy here and we're 8A.  When they start to poop
out do you cut them back and keep water on them occasionally?  That's what I
do in July and they come back in October and bloom once in late fall and on
and off from February until about the end of June.  I like them in hanging
baskets on the front porch.  ESE exposure.  And four o'clocks do the same
thing here.

On 6/6/09, Theresa G. <macycat3@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Hmm- interesting.  Well since I'm zone 8-9  I feel totally dismayed that I
> can't get any snapdragons to come back in spring. Wonder why??
> Four oclocks on the other hand grow like weeds and never stop.
> Theresa
>
> Kitty wrote:
>
>> A. 'Dulcinea's Heart' is a cross between Antirrhinum braun-blanquettii and
>> Antirrhinum majus.
>> Antirrhinum majus, the common garden snapdragon is supposedly hardy iin
>> Zones 7-10, but is always grown as an annual here.
>> Antirrhinum braun-blanquettii is hardy zones 4-10
>> http://www.anniesannuals.com/plants/plant_display.asp?prodid=54
>> http://www.robsplants.com/plants/AntirBraun.php
>> I've read that the species tends to sprawl, but DHeart stays upright.
>>
>> Theresa, there are lots of plants that the general public believes
>> contains only one species - the one that is marketed.  I thought snaps were
>> annuals too.  When I came across this, I thought wow!, had to try it.  Same
>> with the Mirabilis (4 oclock, Marvel of Peru).  But there are hardier
>> species.
>>
>> BTW, re the Mirabilis.  Last fall I potted up 10 fat tubers that had grown
>> from volunteer seeds and overwintered them in the garage.  I also stored 10
>> loose tubers in moistened vermiculite, then potted those in spring.  Every
>> one of them came back.  They're thought to be an annual here.
>>
>>
>> Kitty
>> neIN, Zone 5
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa G." <macycat3@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 3:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine
>>
>>
>> Here is a really goofy questoin- but you are talking about a snapdragon
>>> right?  I've never ever had them return a second year.  I always thought
>>> they were annuals???
>>>
>>> Theresa
>>>
>>> Kietty wrrote:
>>>
>>>> Weell, sI dug ait up.  Re Daryl's mention of soil moisture, that
>>>> aspect seemed ideal.  It wasn't wet, wasn't dry - seemed just right.
>>>> Mulch was only perhaps a half in thick.
>>>> Roots were nice and white, nothing appeared rotted.  The base is solid
>>>> and woody.
>>>> I had planted a dwarf Amsonia next to it at the same time last year
>>>> and it is doing beautifully.
>>>> I potted what is left of it up; removed all the dying material. We'll
>>>> wait and see.
>>>> Gosh, I wanna order another one really bad.
>>>>
>>>> Kitty
>>>> neIN, Zone 5
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 9:17 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Based on  the pictures... it's gonna die if you don't do something.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it were mine, I would dig it up, wash all the dirt off the roots,
>>>>> repot it
>>>>> in a pot with fresh good soil, if I didn't see what was causing this by
>>>>> digging it up and looking at the roots. (maybe some critter is eating
>>>>> the root
>>>>> shoots?)  I would also get my joy dishsoap out, deluted with water,
>>>>> and spray
>>>>> the heck out of it and leave it in the shade for a few hours, then
>>>>> rinse it
>>>>> off....
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometime I have success doing this, sometimes it kills it within 24
>>>>> hours....
>>>>>
>>>>> other thoughts-   Have you fertilized in that area and it got too much
>>>>> recently?  Definately looks like something soil/root issue as it is
>>>>> dieing
>>>>> from the ground up.....or maybe it is too wet of an area?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sure someone else will have a better suggestion than me....
>>>>>
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine
>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>> Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 9:48 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe, but I don't recall, Donna.  Here are some pics:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmrsy/
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't like Flicker, not as easy as yahoo photos was.  If that link
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> take you directly to the pics of the snapdragon, click on the set
>>>>> tiltled
>>>>> "befuddled".
>>>>>
>>>>> Kitty
>>>>> neIN, Zone 5
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 7:37 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you ever have issues with Verticillium Wilt near where this is
>>>>>> planted?
>>>>>> Although this is more of a tree/shrub issue, according to Kemper, it
>>>>>> lists
>>>>>> this for that plant.
>>>>>> http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/PlantFinder/Plant.asp?code=C851
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel lucky you enjoyed it for 2 seasons.  A few years ago a garden
>>>>>> center
>>>>>> around here was selling a similair one claiming to be hardy.  I didn't
>>>>>>
>>>>> believe
>>>>>
>>>>>> it, but the sale was on so I tried it.  Didn't over winter for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On Fri, 6/5/09, Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>>>>>> Subject: [CHAT] dulcinea's heart and mine
>>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>>> Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:17 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> are broken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ordered zone 5 hardy varieties of Antirrhinum, Mirabilis, and
>>>>>> Pelargonium
>>>>>> last year from HCG, not sure I believed their promises.  The Pel just
>>>>>>
>>>>> didn't
>>>>>
>>>>>> feel at home, limped along, and gave up.  The Mirabilis had a weak
>>>>>> start,
>>>>>> survived, no flowers, but managed.  It came back hale and hearty
>>>>>> this year,
>>>>>>
>>>>> so
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am hoping for flowers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it was the hardy snap, 'Dulcinea's Heart', that blew me away.  She
>>>>>> bloomed, never stopping, from May until October.  On New Year's she
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>
>>>>> still
>>>>>
>>>>>> green.  By spring, the thick crown was battered and brown, but she put
>>>>>>
>>>>> forth
>>>>>
>>>>>> new growth quickly when the weather warmed.  She is covered in
>>>>>> blooms! But
>>>>>> she's withering fast recently.  Her leaves droop and she is dying
>>>>>> quickly
>>>>>> now.  It's so sad.  I don't think she'll last much longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone have any idea what could be happening?
>>>>>> Kitty
>>>>>> neIN, Zone 5
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Kemp TX
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