Re: RE: vinca/dandelions/now lettuce wine recipe

Cool beans there lady!  I'll check the grocery store - if they don't have them - hellllooo Internet!!

LOL
thanks again.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Bonnie M. Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:32:45 -0500

>Here goes:
>Lettuce Wine
>3 lbs lettuce
>1 lb wheat
>thinly peeled rind (1 orange and 1 lemon)
>5 pints water
>juice 1 orange and 1 lemon
>8 oz raisins, chopped
>1/2 oz pectic enzyme
>1 Campden tablet
>3 pints syrup, gravity 300
>1 yeast nutrient tablet
>All-purpose wine yeast starter
>cooled, boiled water
>
>Wash and chop lettuce; discard the stalks.  Put in a saucepan with the 
>wheat, rinds and water, bring to the boil and simmer for 15 minutes.
>
>Strain into a polythene pail and, when cool, stir in the fruit juice, 
>chopped raisins, pectic enzyme and Campden tablet, crushed and dissolved in 
>a little water.  Allow to stand for 24 hours.
>
>Add the yeast nutrient tablet, starter and half the syrup, stir well and 
>cover.  Allow to ferment for 7 days in warm place, stirring each day and 
>then replacing lid.
>
>Strain into a 1-gallon fermentation jar, add the remaining syrup, top up to 
>the 1-gallon mark with cooled, boiled water and then fit the fermentation 
>lock.  Ferment to completion in a warm place and then bung.  Siphon into 
>bottles after about 6 months.
>
>Source:  Francis Pinnegar, How to make home wines and beers, Hamlyn, 
>London, New York, Sidney, Toronto, 1971, ISBN 0 600 34358 8, 0 600 34329 8 
>(for paperback).  You might be able to find this in a used book source.
>
>Glass Fermentation Jar:  Get the ones that hold just over a gallon.  You 
>will need two of these for each gallon of wine you make.  Another source 
>says that gallon-size glass bottles may be had from most chemists or 
>wholesale grocers.  I imagine you can find a source on the web.
>
>Have fun.
>Bonnie 6+ ETN
>
>
>
>
>At 07:05 AM 3/5/03 -0600, you wrote:
>>Actually yes really!  And do you know what kind of fermenting jar or 
>>vessel is used for this process?
>>I must have 500 dandelions blooming in my lawn (as it were) right now.  I 
>>really would like to try this!!  I'm intrigued!
>>
>>thanks -
>>
>>Pam
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: "Bonnie M. Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date:  Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:40:05 -0500
>>
>> >After reading some of the wine making recipe books, I figure that desperate
>> >people would make wine out of anything.  Want the recipe?
>> >Bonnie 6+ ETN
>> >
>> >
>> >At 11:50 AM 3/4/03 -0600, you wrote:
>> >>Lettuce??  C'mon now girl!!  I'm cracking up here.
>> >>
>> >>:-D
>> >>(seriously??)
>> >>
>> >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >>From: "Bonnie M. Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
>> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>Date:  Tue, 04 Mar 2003 07:48:38 -0500
>> >>
>> >> >If wine can be made from old tea leaves, soft roots, plums, fruit salad,
>> >> >kohlrabi, lettuce, peach, pumpkin, tangerine, bananas....surely starfruit
>> >> >or guavas will work.  Just a matter of getting the proportions figured
>> >> >out...go for it.
>> >> >
>> >> >Bonnie 6+ ETN
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >At 05:25 PM 3/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >>oh, man, bonnie. this is my kind of science project. thank you. [i 
>> wonder
>> >> >>where i can get dandelions?]
>> >> >>maybe i'll try one or two of them with starfruit or guavas next season.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>At 08:03 AM 3/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >>>Take your pick
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Dandelion Wine I
>> >> >>>1 gallon flower heads without the tiniest piece of stalk
>> >> >>>3 lb sugar
>> >> >>>1 oz yeast
>> >> >>>1 gallon water
>> >> >>>2 lemons
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Remove petals as directed for clover wine.  Put the petals in the
>> >> >>>fermenting vessel and pour on three quarts of water---boiling and 
>> leave to
>> >> >>>soak for seven days, well covered.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Stir daily, and cover again at once. Strain ;and wring out fairly 
>> tightly
>> >> >>>and return the liquor to the fermenting vessel.  Boil half the 
>> sugar in a
>> >> >>>pint of water and when cool add to the liquor, then add the yeast  and
>> >> >>>juice of two lemons.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Cover as directed and ferment for seven days.  Then pour 
>> carefully  into a
>> >> >>>gallon jar, leaving as much deposit as you can behind.  After this, 
>> boil
>> >> >>>the rest of the sugar in the remaining pint of water and when cool 
>> add to
>> >> >>>the rest.  Cover as directed or fit fermentation lock and leave 
>> until all
>> >> >>>fermentation has ceased.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Dandelion II
>> >> >>>2 quarts dandelion heads
>> >> >>>2 1/2 lbs preserving sugar (3 lbs if a sweet wine is desired)
>> >> >>>4 oranges
>> >> >>>1 gallon water
>> >> >>>Yeast and nutrient
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Pick the flowers when the sun is on them and they are fully open. 
>> Use the
>> >> >>>whole head (but no stem) and do not bother to pick off the individual
>> >> >>>petals, which is an exasperating and unnecessary chore.  Pour the 
>> boiling
>> >> >>>water over the flowers and leave for two days.  boil the mixture for 10
>> >> >>>minutes with the orange peel (no white pith) and strain through 
>> muslin on
>> >> >>>to the sugar.  When cool add the fruit juice, yeast, and yeast
>> >> >>>nutrient.  Keep in a warm place, closely covered, for four days, 
>> then pour
>> >> >>>into fermenting jar and fit trap.  Leave till it clears, then 
>> siphon off
>> >> >>>into clean bottles.  This makes an excellent white table wine.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Dandelion III
>> >> >>>5 pints water
>> >> >>>2 quarts dandelions
>> >> >>>3 lbs sugar             }
>> >> >>>1 1/2 teaspoons citric acid } 3 pints syrup gravity 300
>> >> >>>1 1/2 pints water               }
>> >> >>>2 lemons
>> >> >>>all-purpose wine yeast starter
>> >> >>>1 yeast nutrient tablet
>> >> >>>1/2 teaspoon grape tannin
>> >> >>>cooled, boiled water
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Make up a fermentation starter with the yeast 2 days before 
>> preparing the
>> >> >>>must.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Clean and sterilise the required equipment, and measure up fermentation
>> >> >>>jar.  Bring the 5 pints water to the boil, put the dandelions in a
>> >> >>>polythene pail, macerate with a wooden spoon and pour over the boiling
>> >> >>>water.  Cover and leave for 2-3 days---no longer---stirring each 
>> day and
>> >> >>>replacing the cover.  Make up the syrup, with the sugar, citric 
>> acid and
>> >> >>>water and allow to cool.  Strain the must through a nylon sieve into a
>> >> >>>fresh polythene pail.  Add the syrup, finely grated lemon rind, and
>> >> stir in
>> >> >>>the lemon juice, yeast starter, nutrient tablet and tannin.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Cover and ferment in a warm place for 7 days.  Strain through a nylon
>> >> sieve
>> >> >>>into a fermentation jar, top up to 1-gallon with cooled, boiled 
>> water and
>> >> >>>fit fermentation lock.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Allow to ferment until clear and then rack. Rack again 3 months 
>> later and
>> >> >>>bottle two months after that.  This gives you a dry wine which is 
>> ready to
>> >> >>>drink after about 9 months.  For a medium wine, use an extra 8 oz.
>> >> sugar in
>> >> >>>the syrup.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Other stuff:  My wine recipe book says that the root wines are 
>> "commonly
>> >> >>>known as 'carrot whisky' or 'potato Scotch'...and, make no mistake 
>> about
>> >> >>>it, these wines do develop many of the characteristics of whisky 
>> when kept
>> >> >>>a long time...for trouble-free root wine it is best to use old 
>> roots, that
>> >> >>>is, main crop thaat have been stored."
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Bonnie 6+ ETN
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>At 08:54 AM 3/2/03 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >>> >Bonnie darlin' - don't suppose you ran across a recipe in your 
>> travels,
>> >> >>> >have you??  If so, do share!
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >thanks - Pam
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >> >>> >From: "Bonnie M. Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
>> >> >>> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >>> >Date:  Sun, 02 Mar 2003 07:02:27 -0500
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > >Dandelion wine is delicious.  If you pluck the yellow from the 
>> green
>> >> >>> of the
>> >> >>> > >dandelion, you will notice a sweet aroma...makes you understand
>> >> why bees,
>> >> >>> > >etc., gather to dandelion and how you could make wine of such.  The
>> >> >>> British
>> >> >>> > >make wine of everything...years ago found a little British book of
>> >> wine
>> >> >>> > >making...recipes included limp root vegetables and used tea
>> >> >>> leaves...maybe
>> >> >>> > >that is why no one mentions British wine as top.
>> >> >>> > >Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >At 08:48 PM 3/1/03 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >>> > >>Young dandelion greens aren't bad in a salad actually. And I've
>> >> heard of
>> >> >>> > >>dandelion wine of all things. Never sampled any though. Hmmm. 
>> If it's
>> >> >>> > >>any good, I've got enough raw material to make a vat full!!
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >>Pam
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >> >>> > >>From: "Donna " <justme@prairieinet.net>
>> >> >>> > >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >>> > >>Date:  Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:12:12 -0600
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >> >You must be Italian :)
>> >> >>> > >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >Actually I have a cookbook with hundreds of recipes using native
>> >> >>> plants.
>> >> >>> > >> >Can't say I eat them, but interesting reading none the less.
>> >> >>> > >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >Donna
>> >> >>> > >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >>
>> >> >>> > >> >> They eat them! In fact, you can get seeds for dandelion 
>> cultivars
>> >> >>> > >> >(more
>> >> >>> > >> >> tasty, I presume!).
>> >> >>> > >> >> Cathy
>> >> >>> > >> >> On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 03:27 PM, Jesse Bell wrote:
>> >> >>> > >> >>
>> >> >>> > >> >> > I believe that every plant has a purpose..for sure.  Even
>> >> >>> > >> >dandelions.
>> >> >>> > >> >> > :-)
>> >> >>> > >> >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >> > Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >> >>> > >> >> > Claremore, OK
>> >> >>> > >> >> > Zone 6
>> >> >>> > >> >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> From: romans810@juno.com
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> Subject: [CHAT] Re: [CHAT vinca
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:02:59 -0800
>> >> >>> > >> >> >>
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> the vinca
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> The day I had my chemo, The Dr. & I talked about plants
>> >> used in
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> research
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> & he said Vinca was one of many they're looking at. God
>> >> created
>> >> >>> > >> >these
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> for
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> a purpose.
>> >> >>> > >> >> >>
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> Tony Veca <><
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> Another Gr888 Day in Paradise !!!!!
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> Vancouver, WA
>> >> >>> > >> >> >>
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:28:47 -0600 "Tricia"
>> >> >>> > >> ><pdickson@nts-online.net>
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> writes:
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Gene,
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Thanks so much for the information.  I love the vinca 
>> and it
>> >> >>> > >> >makes
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > the spot
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > under the maple trees where I don't have to mow .  I 
>> do use
>> >> >>> it in
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > pots
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > too... and with a blue hosta sounds wonderful.
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Thanks again,
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Tricia
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > From: "Gene Bush" <genebush@otherside.com>
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:27 AM
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Question re: Astilbe
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> >
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > Hello Tricia,
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >     Yes, we do move the containers to a protected spot.
>> >> >>> We have
>> >> >>> > >> >a
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > place
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > behind the garage out of the prevailing winter 
>> winds. We
>> >> >>> make a
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > "room" of
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > bales of straw the size we need each early winter,
>> >> them move
>> >> >>> > >> >the
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > pots into
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > this holding area. Large pots in the middle, the
>> >> smaller ones
>> >> >>> > >> >out
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > near the
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > bales. Sometimes we stuff leaves in between the
>> >> >>> containers, but
>> >> >>> > >> >do
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > not
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > cover
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > the tops. Want them to breathe and not get soggy
>> >> during the
>> >> >>> > >> >cold.
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > I do not
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > remember loosing anything in this manner that was
>> >> >>> perennial to
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > begin with.
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >     In another month we will get the containers out,
>> >> begin to
>> >> >>> > >> >move
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > them
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > into
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > position. Too early to go for the tender perennials and
>> >> >>> annuals
>> >> >>> > >> >as
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > yet. If
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > your variegated vinca is all that aggressive, why not
>> >> >>> place it
>> >> >>> > >> >in
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > a large
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > container for trailing with one of the big blue hosta?
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >     Gene E. Bush
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > www.munchkinnursery.com
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > genebush@munchkinnursery.com
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > > Gene,
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > > I am going to try putting my hostas in pots... I
>> >> have some
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > wonderful
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > hostas
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > > but have thought this year the variegated vinca is
>> >> going to
>> >> >>> > >> >be
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > so
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > aggressive
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > > that I might have to move them.  Do you move the
>> >> pots to a
>> >> >>> > >> >more
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > protected
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > > area during the winter?
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > > Tricia
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > > > zone 6b
>> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >
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>> >> >>> > >> >> >> Tony Veca <><
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