Re: Help please/mirabilis
- To: g*@hort.net
- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Help please/mirabilis
- From: "Pamela J. Evans" g*@gbronline.com
- Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:00:29 -0600
Well we don't have Japanese beetles in Texas so I can't test that theory
out for you dear! Yes, hopefully Andrea will refresh my memory on that
enormous four o'clock she saw. Those 7 footers are pretty impressive.
Great no fuss plants - love 'em.
Guess it would be a pain to have to dig them up though. Thank God I can
leave my cannas, dahlias, glads and so forth in the ground. I'd never
get anything else done!!
Pam
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Kitty <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 06:36:35 -0500 (EST)
>>> saw one in SC about
>10 or 12 feet tall at some nursery I think. <<
>
>Wow, instead of the Marvel of Peru, it could be called the Marvel of SC!
>Also, I don't know how true it is yet, but we discussed on the old list
>at one time how they are attractive but deadly to Japanese Beetles.
>
>
>Kitty
>
>-------Original Message-------
>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>Sent: 03/07/03 07:37 AM
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Help please/mirabilis
>
>>
>> They're hardy here and the tubers get huge. Second year they get like a
>big carrot and just bigger and bigger each succeeding year. My older
>ones get 5 1/2 to 6 feet tall and Andrea told me she saw one in SC about
>10 or 12 feet tall at some nursery I think. (Andrea, please correct me
>if I'm fuzzy on details) My friend Carol down at Cedar Creek Lake had
>ones that get 7 feet tall or better. I bet she'd let me dig up tubers if
>anyone is interested.
>
>They're a deep, almost magenta pink, some more a salmon pink. On the
>older plants, the stalks get big around as my arm. And oh how the
>hummers love the four o'clocks!!
>
>
>Pam
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 00:34:19 -0500
>
>>Ceres,
>>There are about 50 species of Mirabilis so I checked to see if 'Baywatch'
>>was a jalapa and found that it was introduced by Plant Delights a few
>years
>>ago:
>>Mirabilis jalapa 'Baywatch' (L. Calhoun 1999) (N)
>>The (N) indicates they named it and with their sense of humor, I can
>>believe it!
>>
>>Yes, it would develop tubers that can be stored as you would Dahlias (tho
>>I've not personally done this). I read somewhere that some Mirabilis
>>tubers in their native region can grow in the ground over a period of
>years
>>to weighing as much as 20 pounds. I don't know how many stems you'd get
>>from a tuber that size. I think most people are happy with the 4oclocks
>>they get from seed and don't want to go to the effort of digging them up
>>(or know that they can and that they'd get larger plants the second
>year).
>>But with a special one like Baywatch - which I would guess might not come
>>true from seed, it might be worth storing for the winter - and dividing
>to
>>give to friends. I just bet that David would love to have a piece of
>>Baywatch!
>>
>>Kitty
>>(couldn't resist!)
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: <Cersgarden@aol.com>
>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>> Date: 3/6/2003 5:38:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Help please
>>>
>>> In a message dated 3/6/03 9:08:53 PM, kmrsy@earthlink.net writes:
>>>
>>> >Plant the seed one year and you can dig up the tubers that develop and
>>> >store them over winter.
>>> Kitty, I purchased this as a plant one year and wintered it over as a
>>living
>>> plant inside but let it go the following fall. I did not know it
>>developed
>>> tubers. You also mentioned Mirabilis jalapa may be treated the same
>>which I
>>> didn't know either. I ordered Mirabilis 'Baywatch' from Singing
>Springs.
>>
>>> This is a fragrant champagne yellow that grows to 9' (in sandy sites
>6').
>>
>>> Would this also develope a tuber? Kitty, you are a wonder. Thanks
>for
>>the
>>> infor!!
>>> Ceres
>>
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>Pam Evans
>Kemp TX/zone 8A
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>If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
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