Re: yard stuff

Great choice - those are spectacular! I alternate weeks Neem/copper
soap. Seems to work the best of anything I've tried. You know how hard
it is to fight heat and humidity! But I must have roses!


:-)

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:05:08 -0500

>Wow, sounds like you are doing a lot of work Pam. I also couldn't contain
>myself and bought a climbing Joseph's Coat rose today. I've wanted one
>forever and Wal-Mart had them for $6. It's pretty small but has lots of new
>growth on it. I guess I'll be using the neem on a regular basis myself now!
>
>Andrea H
>Beaufort, SC
>Zone 8b
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>
>
>> You are cracking me up woman! Well, I have spent the bulk of the day
>> weeding - my poor back. Thank God you're coming down in two weeks and
>> hopefully bringing me some more bath salts. But I didn't want it to look
>> like a jungle when you get here. I hope these purple crocuses hang
>> around until then - gorgeous! Also planted lilies today and got the rest
>> of the old morning glory vines down since I noticed the new shoots
>> coming up out there! And much to my surprise, species tulips do return
>> in zone 8! They should be blooming just in time for your visit. I love a
>> successful experiment. Also gave the roses a kelp snack and sprayed them
>> w/ Neem since they are leafing out like crazy right now. Viburnums are
>> budding out and the spring bulbs are really giving a good account of
>> themselves this week.
>>
>> Got to get these mints divided and re-potted but that will have to wait
>> until tomorrow. My back is screaming "hey stupid - enough already!"
>>
>> LOL  LOL
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:32:43 -0600
>>
>> >Ya'll are cracking me up.  I hate brussel sprouts too.  My mother forced
>me
>> >to eat them once when I was about 6 years old.  She NEVER did that
>> >again....caused I barfed all over the table.  I could NOT stand the smell
>of
>> >them, much less the taste.  Still don't like them.  Nasty.
>> >
>> >Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >Claremore, OK
>> >Zone 6
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
>> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>> >>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:32:57 -0800
>> >>
>> >>Now wait just a dang nabit minute Auralie!  I like virtually all veggies
>> >>but those are the two that I just don't care for.  Lima beans and
>> >>brussel sprouts.  I'm waiting for Marge to come out west for a visit and
>> >>she can prepare them the way they are supposed to be prepared...I'm sure
>> >>they're *gulp* better!
>> >>
>> >>DF
>> >>
>> >>Aplfgcnys@aol.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I think it's really surprising, and more than a bit sad, that so many
>of
>> >>you
>> >> >good gardeners don't seem to like garden produce.
>> >> >
>> >> >As for cooking methods, there are so many good, easy and nutritious
>ways.
>> >> >For starters, firm veggies like asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower,
>> >>Brussels
>> >> >sprouts, snow peas, green beans, etc. are delicious just blanched in
>> >>boiling
>> >> >water for just a few minutes until crisp-tender and dressed with a bit
>of
>> >> >olive oil and lemon juice and garlic.
>> >> >
>> >> >A special treat for us is roasted vegetables, which take a bit more
>time
>> >>to
>> >> >cut into bite-sized pieces.  Heat a flat pan containing a small amount
>of
>> >> >olive oil, Kosher salt and dried marjoram in a 450 degree oven.  Put
>the
>> >> >firmest veggies, like carrots, turnips, rutabagas, or sweet potatoes
>in
>> >> >first.  Plan your sequence and add each vegetable, stirring to coat
>with
>> >>the
>> >> >oil, as it is cut up.  Onions, sweet peppers, mushrooms, snow peas,
>green
>> >> >beans, squash all are good roasted.  I usually combine four or five
>> >>kinds,
>> >> >ending with the tenderist, like snow peas.  The whole process may take
>20
>> >> >minutes to half an hour, but they are soooo good.
>> >> >
>> >> >And then there are stir-fries.  Almost any combination of vegetables
>with
>> >>or
>> >> >without a small amount of meat may be cooked quickly in a wok or large
>> >> >skillet.  I use lemon juice and canned chicken broth thickened with
>> >> >cornstarch or Wondra flour for the sauce, but soy sauce is more
>> >>conventional.
>> >> > As you can see, we avoid even the butter - I only use butter to make
>> >> >Christmas candy, though I would still enjoy it.
>> >> >
>> >> >This is the weekend to plant peas, and the garden here is still
>covered
>> >>with
>> >> >about six inches of hard-packed snow.  At least I can dream.  Fresh
>> >> >vegetables from the garden are a real joy - sorry not everyone
>> >>appreciates
>> >> >them.               Auralie
>> >> >
>> >> >In a message dated 03/15/2003 1:22:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> >> >mtalt@hort.net writes:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>Aw come on, Jim....turnips and rutabagas AND parsnips are yummy when
>> >> >>they are harvested before they get too mature and prepared properly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>I think that steamed until just right but not overdone, with a touch
>> >> >>of butter, salt and pepper and all veggies are much more than 'more
>> >> >>or less edible'...they're durn good.  About the only veg I boil is
>> >> >>potatoes and then only if I want to make gravy - generally steam them
>> >> >>too.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>For some reason - maybe because they used tough, old specimens -
>> >> >>people used to boil the heck out of just about every veg....turning
>> >> >>most of them into inedible messes.  Might also be they just didn't
>> >> >>know about steaming as opposed to boiling.  This practice still goes
>> >> >>on, but not so much anymore I think with all the oriental cuisines
>> >> >>now available in the US, most of which seem veggie based to me - and
>> >> >>most of which rely on steaming as the cooking process.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>David, you must have come from a 'boil it to death' family....too bad
>> >> >>it turned you against things like Brussels sprouts, which, if fresh,
>> >> >>young and steamed until just tender (about 12 - 15 minutes) are sweet
>> >> >>and don't even need added butter and seasonings to melt in your
>> >> >>mouth, but a touch of 'extras' makes them even better.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Try a little marjoram in your lima beans - just a touch - with
>> >> >>butter, salt and pepper...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
>> >> >>mtalt@hort.net
>> >> >>Editor:  Gardening in Shade
>> >> >>-----------------------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>----------
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>amazing that vegetables should engender any kind of passion. aside
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>from a
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>few dozen indian entrees, vegetables are just, well, vegetables as
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>near as
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>i can tell. all of them cooked al dente and dressed with a drizzle
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>of sweet
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>butter and white pepper, thank you, are more or less edible. all of
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>them,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>that is, except turnips, parsnips, and rutabagas--the existence of
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>which
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>confirm the notion that god has a malicious sense of humor.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>At 06:16 PM 3/14/03 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>NO NO-- I am with Zem.... Fresh from my garden..yummy!
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Try adding some sauce (cheese or hollandaise) that is what I do
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>for the
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>picky folks that come here.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>And yes, I like all veggies..including lima beans...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Donna
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >
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