Re: yard stuff


Well I got it planted today, despite the fact that I'm not supposed to be
doing any digging....oops. I was very careful though. And it is going to
look fabo growing over my arbor at the back gate.
Andrea H
Beaufort, SC
Zone 8b

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] yard stuff


> Great choice - those are spectacular! I alternate weeks Neem/copper
> soap. Seems to work the best of anything I've tried. You know how hard
> it is to fight heat and humidity! But I must have roses!
>
>
> :-)
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:05:08 -0500
>
> >Wow, sounds like you are doing a lot of work Pam. I also couldn't contain
> >myself and bought a climbing Joseph's Coat rose today. I've wanted one
> >forever and Wal-Mart had them for $6. It's pretty small but has lots of
new
> >growth on it. I guess I'll be using the neem on a regular basis myself
now!
> >
> >Andrea H
> >Beaufort, SC
> >Zone 8b
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
> >
> >
> >> You are cracking me up woman! Well, I have spent the bulk of the day
> >> weeding - my poor back. Thank God you're coming down in two weeks and
> >> hopefully bringing me some more bath salts. But I didn't want it to
look
> >> like a jungle when you get here. I hope these purple crocuses hang
> >> around until then - gorgeous! Also planted lilies today and got the
rest
> >> of the old morning glory vines down since I noticed the new shoots
> >> coming up out there! And much to my surprise, species tulips do return
> >> in zone 8! They should be blooming just in time for your visit. I love
a
> >> successful experiment. Also gave the roses a kelp snack and sprayed
them
> >> w/ Neem since they are leafing out like crazy right now. Viburnums are
> >> budding out and the spring bulbs are really giving a good account of
> >> themselves this week.
> >>
> >> Got to get these mints divided and re-potted but that will have to wait
> >> until tomorrow. My back is screaming "hey stupid - enough already!"
> >>
> >> LOL  LOL
> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >> From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
> >> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:32:43 -0600
> >>
> >> >Ya'll are cracking me up.  I hate brussel sprouts too.  My mother
forced
> >me
> >> >to eat them once when I was about 6 years old.  She NEVER did that
> >> >again....caused I barfed all over the table.  I could NOT stand the
smell
> >of
> >> >them, much less the taste.  Still don't like them.  Nasty.
> >> >
> >> >Jesse Rene' Bell
> >> >Claremore, OK
> >> >Zone 6
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> >> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
> >> >>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:32:57 -0800
> >> >>
> >> >>Now wait just a dang nabit minute Auralie!  I like virtually all
veggies
> >> >>but those are the two that I just don't care for.  Lima beans and
> >> >>brussel sprouts.  I'm waiting for Marge to come out west for a visit
and
> >> >>she can prepare them the way they are supposed to be prepared...I'm
sure
> >> >>they're *gulp* better!
> >> >>
> >> >>DF
> >> >>
> >> >>Aplfgcnys@aol.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I think it's really surprising, and more than a bit sad, that so
many
> >of
> >> >>you
> >> >> >good gardeners don't seem to like garden produce.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >As for cooking methods, there are so many good, easy and nutritious
> >ways.
> >> >> >For starters, firm veggies like asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower,
> >> >>Brussels
> >> >> >sprouts, snow peas, green beans, etc. are delicious just blanched
in
> >> >>boiling
> >> >> >water for just a few minutes until crisp-tender and dressed with a
bit
> >of
> >> >> >olive oil and lemon juice and garlic.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >A special treat for us is roasted vegetables, which take a bit more
> >time
> >> >>to
> >> >> >cut into bite-sized pieces.  Heat a flat pan containing a small
amount
> >of
> >> >> >olive oil, Kosher salt and dried marjoram in a 450 degree oven.
Put
> >the
> >> >> >firmest veggies, like carrots, turnips, rutabagas, or sweet
potatoes
> >in
> >> >> >first.  Plan your sequence and add each vegetable, stirring to coat
> >with
> >> >>the
> >> >> >oil, as it is cut up.  Onions, sweet peppers, mushrooms, snow peas,
> >green
> >> >> >beans, squash all are good roasted.  I usually combine four or five
> >> >>kinds,
> >> >> >ending with the tenderist, like snow peas.  The whole process may
take
> >20
> >> >> >minutes to half an hour, but they are soooo good.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And then there are stir-fries.  Almost any combination of
vegetables
> >with
> >> >>or
> >> >> >without a small amount of meat may be cooked quickly in a wok or
large
> >> >> >skillet.  I use lemon juice and canned chicken broth thickened with
> >> >> >cornstarch or Wondra flour for the sauce, but soy sauce is more
> >> >>conventional.
> >> >> > As you can see, we avoid even the butter - I only use butter to
make
> >> >> >Christmas candy, though I would still enjoy it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >This is the weekend to plant peas, and the garden here is still
> >covered
> >> >>with
> >> >> >about six inches of hard-packed snow.  At least I can dream.  Fresh
> >> >> >vegetables from the garden are a real joy - sorry not everyone
> >> >>appreciates
> >> >> >them.               Auralie
> >> >> >
> >> >> >In a message dated 03/15/2003 1:22:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> >> >> >mtalt@hort.net writes:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>Aw come on, Jim....turnips and rutabagas AND parsnips are yummy
when
> >> >> >>they are harvested before they get too mature and prepared
properly.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>I think that steamed until just right but not overdone, with a
touch
> >> >> >>of butter, salt and pepper and all veggies are much more than
'more
> >> >> >>or less edible'...they're durn good.  About the only veg I boil is
> >> >> >>potatoes and then only if I want to make gravy - generally steam
them
> >> >> >>too.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>For some reason - maybe because they used tough, old specimens -
> >> >> >>people used to boil the heck out of just about every
veg....turning
> >> >> >>most of them into inedible messes.  Might also be they just didn't
> >> >> >>know about steaming as opposed to boiling.  This practice still
goes
> >> >> >>on, but not so much anymore I think with all the oriental cuisines
> >> >> >>now available in the US, most of which seem veggie based to me -
and
> >> >> >>most of which rely on steaming as the cooking process.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>David, you must have come from a 'boil it to death' family....too
bad
> >> >> >>it turned you against things like Brussels sprouts, which, if
fresh,
> >> >> >>young and steamed until just tender (about 12 - 15 minutes) are
sweet
> >> >> >>and don't even need added butter and seasonings to melt in your
> >> >> >>mouth, but a touch of 'extras' makes them even better.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Try a little marjoram in your lima beans - just a touch - with
> >> >> >>butter, salt and pepper...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> >> >> >>mtalt@hort.net
> >> >> >>Editor:  Gardening in Shade
> >> >> >>-----------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>----------
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>amazing that vegetables should engender any kind of passion.
aside
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>from a
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>few dozen indian entrees, vegetables are just, well, vegetables
as
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>near as
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>i can tell. all of them cooked al dente and dressed with a
drizzle
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>of sweet
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>butter and white pepper, thank you, are more or less edible. all
of
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>them,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>that is, except turnips, parsnips, and rutabagas--the existence
of
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>which
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>confirm the notion that god has a malicious sense of humor.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>At 06:16 PM 3/14/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>NO NO-- I am with Zem.... Fresh from my garden..yummy!
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>Try adding some sauce (cheese or hollandaise) that is what I do
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>for the
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>>picky folks that come here.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>And yes, I like all veggies..including lima beans...
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>Donna
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
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> >> Kemp TX/zone 8A
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