Re: yard stuff


Oh that will be pretty! Not digging because of your back I assume? Glad
you were careful. Can't wait to see a picture of your new beauty when
it's in all its glory!!


:-)

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:29:57 -0500

>Well I got it planted today, despite the fact that I'm not supposed to be
>doing any digging....oops. I was very careful though. And it is going to
>look fabo growing over my arbor at the back gate.
>Andrea H
>Beaufort, SC
>Zone 8b
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 6:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] yard stuff
>
>
>> Great choice - those are spectacular! I alternate weeks Neem/copper
>> soap. Seems to work the best of anything I've tried. You know how hard
>> it is to fight heat and humidity! But I must have roses!
>>
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:05:08 -0500
>>
>> >Wow, sounds like you are doing a lot of work Pam. I also couldn't contain
>> >myself and bought a climbing Joseph's Coat rose today. I've wanted one
>> >forever and Wal-Mart had them for $6. It's pretty small but has lots of
>new
>> >growth on it. I guess I'll be using the neem on a regular basis myself
>now!
>> >
>> >Andrea H
>> >Beaufort, SC
>> >Zone 8b
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:56 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>> >
>> >
>> >> You are cracking me up woman! Well, I have spent the bulk of the day
>> >> weeding - my poor back. Thank God you're coming down in two weeks and
>> >> hopefully bringing me some more bath salts. But I didn't want it to
>look
>> >> like a jungle when you get here. I hope these purple crocuses hang
>> >> around until then - gorgeous! Also planted lilies today and got the
>rest
>> >> of the old morning glory vines down since I noticed the new shoots
>> >> coming up out there! And much to my surprise, species tulips do return
>> >> in zone 8! They should be blooming just in time for your visit. I love
>a
>> >> successful experiment. Also gave the roses a kelp snack and sprayed
>them
>> >> w/ Neem since they are leafing out like crazy right now. Viburnums are
>> >> budding out and the spring bulbs are really giving a good account of
>> >> themselves this week.
>> >>
>> >> Got to get these mints divided and re-potted but that will have to wait
>> >> until tomorrow. My back is screaming "hey stupid - enough already!"
>> >>
>> >> LOL  LOL
>> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >> From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> >> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:32:43 -0600
>> >>
>> >> >Ya'll are cracking me up.  I hate brussel sprouts too.  My mother
>forced
>> >me
>> >> >to eat them once when I was about 6 years old.  She NEVER did that
>> >> >again....caused I barfed all over the table.  I could NOT stand the
>smell
>> >of
>> >> >them, much less the taste.  Still don't like them.  Nasty.
>> >> >
>> >> >Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >> >Claremore, OK
>> >> >Zone 6
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
>> >> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
>> >> >>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:32:57 -0800
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Now wait just a dang nabit minute Auralie!  I like virtually all
>veggies
>> >> >>but those are the two that I just don't care for.  Lima beans and
>> >> >>brussel sprouts.  I'm waiting for Marge to come out west for a visit
>and
>> >> >>she can prepare them the way they are supposed to be prepared...I'm
>sure
>> >> >>they're *gulp* better!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>DF
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Aplfgcnys@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I think it's really surprising, and more than a bit sad, that so
>many
>> >of
>> >> >>you
>> >> >> >good gardeners don't seem to like garden produce.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >As for cooking methods, there are so many good, easy and nutritious
>> >ways.
>> >> >> >For starters, firm veggies like asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower,
>> >> >>Brussels
>> >> >> >sprouts, snow peas, green beans, etc. are delicious just blanched
>in
>> >> >>boiling
>> >> >> >water for just a few minutes until crisp-tender and dressed with a
>bit
>> >of
>> >> >> >olive oil and lemon juice and garlic.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >A special treat for us is roasted vegetables, which take a bit more
>> >time
>> >> >>to
>> >> >> >cut into bite-sized pieces.  Heat a flat pan containing a small
>amount
>> >of
>> >> >> >olive oil, Kosher salt and dried marjoram in a 450 degree oven.
>Put
>> >the
>> >> >> >firmest veggies, like carrots, turnips, rutabagas, or sweet
>potatoes
>> >in
>> >> >> >first.  Plan your sequence and add each vegetable, stirring to coat
>> >with
>> >> >>the
>> >> >> >oil, as it is cut up.  Onions, sweet peppers, mushrooms, snow peas,
>> >green
>> >> >> >beans, squash all are good roasted.  I usually combine four or five
>> >> >>kinds,
>> >> >> >ending with the tenderist, like snow peas.  The whole process may
>take
>> >20
>> >> >> >minutes to half an hour, but they are soooo good.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >And then there are stir-fries.  Almost any combination of
>vegetables
>> >with
>> >> >>or
>> >> >> >without a small amount of meat may be cooked quickly in a wok or
>large
>> >> >> >skillet.  I use lemon juice and canned chicken broth thickened with
>> >> >> >cornstarch or Wondra flour for the sauce, but soy sauce is more
>> >> >>conventional.
>> >> >> > As you can see, we avoid even the butter - I only use butter to
>make
>> >> >> >Christmas candy, though I would still enjoy it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >This is the weekend to plant peas, and the garden here is still
>> >covered
>> >> >>with
>> >> >> >about six inches of hard-packed snow.  At least I can dream.  Fresh
>> >> >> >vegetables from the garden are a real joy - sorry not everyone
>> >> >>appreciates
>> >> >> >them.               Auralie
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >In a message dated 03/15/2003 1:22:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> >> >> >mtalt@hort.net writes:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>Aw come on, Jim....turnips and rutabagas AND parsnips are yummy
>when
>> >> >> >>they are harvested before they get too mature and prepared
>properly.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>I think that steamed until just right but not overdone, with a
>touch
>> >> >> >>of butter, salt and pepper and all veggies are much more than
>'more
>> >> >> >>or less edible'...they're durn good.  About the only veg I boil is
>> >> >> >>potatoes and then only if I want to make gravy - generally steam
>them
>> >> >> >>too.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>For some reason - maybe because they used tough, old specimens -
>> >> >> >>people used to boil the heck out of just about every
>veg....turning
>> >> >> >>most of them into inedible messes.  Might also be they just didn't
>> >> >> >>know about steaming as opposed to boiling.  This practice still
>goes
>> >> >> >>on, but not so much anymore I think with all the oriental cuisines
>> >> >> >>now available in the US, most of which seem veggie based to me -
>and
>> >> >> >>most of which rely on steaming as the cooking process.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>David, you must have come from a 'boil it to death' family....too
>bad
>> >> >> >>it turned you against things like Brussels sprouts, which, if
>fresh,
>> >> >> >>young and steamed until just tender (about 12 - 15 minutes) are
>sweet
>> >> >> >>and don't even need added butter and seasonings to melt in your
>> >> >> >>mouth, but a touch of 'extras' makes them even better.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Try a little marjoram in your lima beans - just a touch - with
>> >> >> >>butter, salt and pepper...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
>> >> >> >>mtalt@hort.net
>> >> >> >>Editor:  Gardening in Shade
>> >> >> >>-----------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>----------
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>amazing that vegetables should engender any kind of passion.
>aside
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>from a
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>few dozen indian entrees, vegetables are just, well, vegetables
>as
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>near as
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>i can tell. all of them cooked al dente and dressed with a
>drizzle
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>of sweet
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>butter and white pepper, thank you, are more or less edible. all
>of
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>them,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>that is, except turnips, parsnips, and rutabagas--the existence
>of
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>which
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>confirm the notion that god has a malicious sense of humor.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>At 06:16 PM 3/14/03 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>NO NO-- I am with Zem.... Fresh from my garden..yummy!
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>Try adding some sauce (cheese or hollandaise) that is what I do
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>for the
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>>picky folks that come here.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>And yes, I like all veggies..including lima beans...
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>Donna
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
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>> >> Kemp TX/zone 8A
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