Re: yard stuff

sure thing. As soon as I get all the stuff in the proper combos and
'contained" I plan on taking some photos to show the retail nurseries. Will
be more than happy to scan them and send (if I can figure out how!)
A

Andrea H
Beaufort, SC
Zone 8b

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] yard stuff


> Hey Andrea, I'd love to see what you got growing for the business
> sometime when you can post pics.  That would be fun to see.
>
> DF
>
> Pamela J. Evans wrote:
>
> >Oh that will be pretty! Not digging because of your back I assume? Glad
> >you were careful. Can't wait to see a picture of your new beauty when
> >it's in all its glory!!
> >
> >
> >:-)
> >
> >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >Date:  Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:29:57 -0500
> >
> >
> >
> >>Well I got it planted today, despite the fact that I'm not supposed to
be
> >>doing any digging....oops. I was very careful though. And it is going to
> >>look fabo growing over my arbor at the back gate.
> >>Andrea H
> >>Beaufort, SC
> >>Zone 8b
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
> >>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 6:24 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] yard stuff
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Great choice - those are spectacular! I alternate weeks Neem/copper
> >>>soap. Seems to work the best of anything I've tried. You know how hard
> >>>it is to fight heat and humidity! But I must have roses!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>:-)
> >>>
> >>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>>From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
> >>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:05:08 -0500
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Wow, sounds like you are doing a lot of work Pam. I also couldn't
contain
> >>>>myself and bought a climbing Joseph's Coat rose today. I've wanted one
> >>>>forever and Wal-Mart had them for $6. It's pretty small but has lots
of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>new
> >>
> >>
> >>>>growth on it. I guess I'll be using the neem on a regular basis myself
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>now!
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Andrea H
> >>>>Beaufort, SC
> >>>>Zone 8b
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
> >>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:56 PM
> >>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>You are cracking me up woman! Well, I have spent the bulk of the day
> >>>>>weeding - my poor back. Thank God you're coming down in two weeks and
> >>>>>hopefully bringing me some more bath salts. But I didn't want it to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>look
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>like a jungle when you get here. I hope these purple crocuses hang
> >>>>>around until then - gorgeous! Also planted lilies today and got the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>rest
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>of the old morning glory vines down since I noticed the new shoots
> >>>>>coming up out there! And much to my surprise, species tulips do
return
> >>>>>in zone 8! They should be blooming just in time for your visit. I
love
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>a
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>successful experiment. Also gave the roses a kelp snack and sprayed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>them
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>w/ Neem since they are leafing out like crazy right now. Viburnums
are
> >>>>>budding out and the spring bulbs are really giving a good account of
> >>>>>themselves this week.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Got to get these mints divided and re-potted but that will have to
wait
> >>>>>until tomorrow. My back is screaming "hey stupid - enough already!"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>LOL  LOL
> >>>>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>>>>From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
> >>>>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>Date:  Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:32:43 -0600
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Ya'll are cracking me up.  I hate brussel sprouts too.  My mother
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>forced
> >>
> >>
> >>>>me
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>to eat them once when I was about 6 years old.  She NEVER did that
> >>>>>>again....caused I barfed all over the table.  I could NOT stand the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>smell
> >>
> >>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>them, much less the taste.  Still don't like them.  Nasty.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Jesse Rene' Bell
> >>>>>>Claremore, OK
> >>>>>>Zone 6
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> >>>>>>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello/now vegetables
> >>>>>>>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:32:57 -0800
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Now wait just a dang nabit minute Auralie!  I like virtually all
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>veggies
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>but those are the two that I just don't care for.  Lima beans and
> >>>>>>>brussel sprouts.  I'm waiting for Marge to come out west for a
visit
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>she can prepare them the way they are supposed to be prepared...I'm
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>sure
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>they're *gulp* better!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>DF
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Aplfgcnys@aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I think it's really surprising, and more than a bit sad, that so
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>many
> >>
> >>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>you
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>good gardeners don't seem to like garden produce.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>As for cooking methods, there are so many good, easy and
nutritious
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>ways.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>For starters, firm veggies like asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Brussels
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>sprouts, snow peas, green beans, etc. are delicious just blanched
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>in
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>boiling
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>water for just a few minutes until crisp-tender and dressed with a
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>bit
> >>
> >>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>olive oil and lemon juice and garlic.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>A special treat for us is roasted vegetables, which take a bit
more
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>time
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>cut into bite-sized pieces.  Heat a flat pan containing a small
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>amount
> >>
> >>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>olive oil, Kosher salt and dried marjoram in a 450 degree oven.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>Put
> >>
> >>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>firmest veggies, like carrots, turnips, rutabagas, or sweet
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>potatoes
> >>
> >>
> >>>>in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>first.  Plan your sequence and add each vegetable, stirring to
coat
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>with
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>oil, as it is cut up.  Onions, sweet peppers, mushrooms, snow
peas,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>green
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>beans, squash all are good roasted.  I usually combine four or
five
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>kinds,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>ending with the tenderist, like snow peas.  The whole process may
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>take
> >>
> >>
> >>>>20
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>minutes to half an hour, but they are soooo good.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>And then there are stir-fries.  Almost any combination of
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>vegetables
> >>
> >>
> >>>>with
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>or
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>without a small amount of meat may be cooked quickly in a wok or
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>large
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>skillet.  I use lemon juice and canned chicken broth thickened
with
> >>>>>>>>cornstarch or Wondra flour for the sauce, but soy sauce is more
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>conventional.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>As you can see, we avoid even the butter - I only use butter to
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>make
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>Christmas candy, though I would still enjoy it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>This is the weekend to plant peas, and the garden here is still
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>covered
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>with
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>about six inches of hard-packed snow.  At least I can dream.
Fresh
> >>>>>>>>vegetables from the garden are a real joy - sorry not everyone
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>appreciates
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>them.               Auralie
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>In a message dated 03/15/2003 1:22:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> >>>>>>>>mtalt@hort.net writes:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Aw come on, Jim....turnips and rutabagas AND parsnips are yummy
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>when
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>they are harvested before they get too mature and prepared
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>properly.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>I think that steamed until just right but not overdone, with a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>touch
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>of butter, salt and pepper and all veggies are much more than
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>'more
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>or less edible'...they're durn good.  About the only veg I boil
is
> >>>>>>>>>potatoes and then only if I want to make gravy - generally steam
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>them
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>too.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>For some reason - maybe because they used tough, old specimens -
> >>>>>>>>>people used to boil the heck out of just about every
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>veg....turning
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>most of them into inedible messes.  Might also be they just
didn't
> >>>>>>>>>know about steaming as opposed to boiling.  This practice still
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>goes
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>on, but not so much anymore I think with all the oriental
cuisines
> >>>>>>>>>now available in the US, most of which seem veggie based to me -
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>most of which rely on steaming as the cooking process.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>David, you must have come from a 'boil it to death' family....too
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>bad
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>it turned you against things like Brussels sprouts, which, if
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>fresh,
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>young and steamed until just tender (about 12 - 15 minutes) are
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>sweet
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>and don't even need added butter and seasonings to melt in your
> >>>>>>>>>mouth, but a touch of 'extras' makes them even better.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Try a little marjoram in your lima beans - just a touch - with
> >>>>>>>>>butter, salt and pepper...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> >>>>>>>>>mtalt@hort.net
> >>>>>>>>>Editor:  Gardening in Shade
> >>>>>>>>>-----------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>----------
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>amazing that vegetables should engender any kind of passion.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>aside
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>from a
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>few dozen indian entrees, vegetables are just, well, vegetables
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>as
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>near as
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>i can tell. all of them cooked al dente and dressed with a
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>drizzle
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>of sweet
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>butter and white pepper, thank you, are more or less edible. all
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>of
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>them,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>that is, except turnips, parsnips, and rutabagas--the existence
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>of
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>which
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>confirm the notion that god has a malicious sense of humor.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>At 06:16 PM 3/14/03 -0600, you wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>NO NO-- I am with Zem.... Fresh from my garden..yummy!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Try adding some sauce (cheese or hollandaise) that is what I do

> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>for the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>picky folks that come here.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>And yes, I like all veggies..including lima beans...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Donna
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Pam Evans
> >>>>>Kemp TX/zone 8A
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>Kemp TX/zone 8A
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