Re: Grits


Cold in PA too. Pasties were popular when I was growing up. Never seen
them here. What mother used to call rib-sticking food. Yeah - like I
need anything else to stick to these ribs - LOL LOL



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:04:55 -0800

>Hey, it's cold in Germany.  They needed the calories.  Yech!  
>
>DF
>
>Kitty Morrissy wrote:
>
>>Something else they serve here that I thought odd, but this tastes pretty
>>darn good.  I'd never seen noodles before we moved to Indiana, so in and of
>>themselves they were kind of odd.   But the school I attended had these old
>>German women who cooked for us.  And one of the favorite meals was mashed
>>potatoes, topped with noodles, topped with beef gravy - and a bit of beef
>>in the gravy.  Talk about starch!  
>>kitty
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>Date: 3/17/2003 7:53:56 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Grits
>>>
>>>When I was younger and didn't care about my heart I used to love chicken 
>>>fried steak with country gravy and eggs over easy.  Yum boy!  Now, well 
>>>now I just can't do it.  Too thick.
>>>
>>>DF
>>>
>>>Kitty wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>I was never impressed by grits. Then there's "Sausage Gravy & Biscuits"
>>>>. Ugh. I cannot even sit at the same table with that horrid looking
>>>>mess.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kitty
>>>>
>>>>-------Original Message-------
>>>>From: romans810@juno.com
>>>>Sent: 03/17/03 03:31 PM
>>>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Grits
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>>feeling 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>Thanks Pam - I'm still feeling gr888. Besides the grits, etc, back in the
>>>>"old" days, my ex  - Bro-law was from Tenn. & a truck driver. he would
>>>>bring back good old 'WHITE LIGHTNING & down home salted ham. One shot of
>>>>lightning & I forgot how salty the ham was. Oh yes, along with some gr888
>>>>okra.
>>>>
>>>>Tony Veca <><
>>>>Another Gr888 Day in Paradise !!!!!
>>>>Vancouver, WA
>>>>
>>>>On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:45:54 -0600 "Pamela J. Evans"
>>>><gardenqueen@gbronline.com> writes:
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>>Tony - now that's hilarious!  How are you feeling BTW??
>>>>>
>>>>>Pam
>>>>>
>>>>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>>>From: romans810@juno.com
>>>>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>>Date:  Sun, 16 Mar 2003 16:34:46 -0800
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>grits 
>>>>>>My first wife was from Kentucky & I got introduced to southern 
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>vittles. I
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>loved them all. I was known as the only sicilian in southern 
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>captivity.
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>Tony Veca <><
>>>>>>Another Gr888 Day in Paradise !!!!!
>>>>>>Vancouver, WA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:21:44 -0500 "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net> 
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>writes:
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wow, I'm surprised. Most people who didn't grow up eating them 
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>freak 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>out
>>>>>>>when they taste them for the first time. One thing I've never 
>>>>>>>understood is
>>>>>>>eating them with cream and sugar. YUCK! We always had butter, 
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>salt & 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>pepper
>>>>>>>and that's it. Sometimes cheese. Of course now that I live on the 
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>coast
>>>>>>>shrimp & grits is a good thing!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Andrea H
>>>>>>>Beaufort, SC
>>>>>>>Zone 8b
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Maria Olshin" <marolsh@ptd.net>
>>>>>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:57 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm not Southern, but I worked on a movie in MD for seven weeks 
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>once, and
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>had grits every day. Still love 'em.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Maria
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>OHHHHH, now you are truly southern if you love grits.  I grew 
>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>up 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>in the
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>south....grits and butter, cheese grits, grits with 
>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>eggs....my 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>husband
>>>>>>>does
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>not like them.  I can't even imagine that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jesse Rene' Bell
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>>>>>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello?
>>>>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:55:41 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Pinto beans and cornbread is a staple here too Rene'. My Dad 
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>would FLIP
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>he couldn't have cornbread. (Oh, and grits of course)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Andrea H
>>>>>>>>>>Beaufort, SC
>>>>>>>>>>Zone 8b
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 4:23 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Ummmm...wait a minute...I think that's MY mother you are 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>talking
>>>>>>>about.
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Luv
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>her....hate the cooking.  My kids won't even eat my 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>mother's 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>cooking.
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>They
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>saw pictures of me when I was a skinny teenager and all of 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>them chimed
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>in,
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"GEE MOM...IT'S NO WONDER YOU WERE SO SKINNY...MIMI CAN'T 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>COOK 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>FOR
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>NOTHING...YOU LOOKED STARVED!"  I wore a size 1 when all my 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>friends
>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>size 6.  I learned to cook in high school just so I could 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>EAT 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>at home.
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>mother started selling real estate then...so I took over 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>the 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>cooking.
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>siblings were very happy...and so was my father!!  He still 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>comes over
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>house so he can "get a decent bowl of pinto beans and 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>cornbread!"
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>(that's
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>staple in Oklahoma....like red beans and rice in New 
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>Orleans)
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Jesse Rene' Bell
>>>>>>>>>>>Claremore, OK
>>>>>>>>>>>Zone 6
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hello?
>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:30:17 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>did we have the same mother?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>At 09:20 AM 3/15/03 -0800, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                      
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>As a chef Zem, I appreciate that.  However, you obviously 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>didn't
>>>>>>>know
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>sainted mother may she rest in peace.  My mother had many 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>great
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>attibutes...cooking wasn't one of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>DF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zemuly@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In a message dated 03/14/2003 6:04:45 PM Central 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>Standard 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Time,
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dfranzma@pacbell.net writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>next to lima beans brussel sprouts are the lowest of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>life 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>forms.
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                            
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Obviously, you are not familiar with that Southern 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>anthem, 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Just a
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Bowl
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Butter Beans" sung to the tune of "Just a Closer Walk 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>with 
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thee."
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Very
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>touching.  If somebody is willing to cook for me I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>delighted to
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>eat
>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no matter what, well, maybe not dirt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>zone 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>West TN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                          
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>>>>>>Tony Veca <><
>>>>>>Another Gr888 Day in Paradise !!!!!
>>>>>>Vancouver, WA
>>>>>>
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>>>>>--
>>>>>Pam Evans
>>>>>Kemp TX/zone 8A
>>>>>
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>>>>Tony Veca <><
>>>>Another Gr888 Day in Paradise !!!!!
>>>>Vancouver, WA
>>>>
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