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Re: NOW mini-mansions and disgust

Melody, I know what you mean, was looking back at some of the old minutes of
the village board, and back in the early 60's there were enough grants to do
the water project, and Uncle Sam was willing to share.  That village board
decided that the town couldn't afford a grant.  So now the town is repaying
a $90,000 bond that was our part of the new water system.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] NOW mini-mansions and disgust

> Rich: Yeah, we're probably looking at getting municipal water sometime
> in the next few years mostly because our selurian acquifer is
> contaminated with perchlorate. As chairperson of the water task force
> that our town established, it's a real challenge because there is a
> certain old guard faction who wants nothing to do with municipal
> water...
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> --Albert Einstein
>  --- On Wed 03/24, Richard T. Apking < richa@midlands.net > wrote:
> From: Richard T. Apking [mailto: richa@midlands.net]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:41:48 -0800
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] NOW mini-mansions and disgust
> Melody, I'm with you. Winslow is a town of 140 at the last census. We
> do<br>have municipal water, I kinda pushed having water you could see
> through, and<br>not have to chew. No grocery store, just an elevator and
> a bar and a<br>postoffice. And we are scheduled to get a levee around
> town so we don't<br>have to fill sandbags every time the Elkhorn river
> decides to flood.<br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Melody"
> <mhobertm@excite.com><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Tuesday,
> March 23, 2004 10:31 PM<br>Subject: RE: [CHAT] NOW mini-mansions and
> disgust<br><br><br>> Theresa: This is why I live in such a tiny
> town...developers don't want<br>> anything to do with us...we don't have
> anything to offer, especially no<br>> big tracts of land for
> developement, we don't have municipal water,<br>> heck, we don't even
> have a grocery store. The few houses that do get<br>> built every few
> years are reasonably sized with good sized lots that<br>> give enough
> room for kids/dogs/gardens and are usually built by people<br>> whose
> family's have lived in this town for generations anyway. Thank<br>>
> goodness for small favors! Can't stand the constant development in
> the<br>> nearest towns...college community that has big aspirations to
> being a<br>> tourist mecca. ugh!<br>><br>><br>><br>> Melody, IA (Z
> 5/4)<br>><br>> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the
> mysterious."<br>> --Albert Einstein<br>><br>> --- On Tue 03/23, Tchessie
> < tchessie@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Tchessie [mailto:
> tchessie@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Tue, 23
> Mar 2004 19:51:20 -0800<br>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] NOW mini-mansions and
> disgust<br>><br>> How sad it is that we all seem to have the same story.
> I wonder how<br>> many<br>years until we really have "paved paradise and
> put up a parking<br>> lot"?<br>They are experiencing housing and
> population growth here to<br>> equate to one<br>new elementary school
> classroom per week here. An<br>> additional 8000 kids will<br>live here
> before the end of the school<br>> ye
> ar. And yes, the houses are huge<br>(and I know only 3-4 people
> live<br>> in them)- you could easily spit on your<br>neighbor's dining
> room table<br>> from sitting inside your own house. It is<br>physically
> painful to see<br>> the habitat for the hawks, coyotes and
> rabbits<br>taken over by housing<br>> developments. I see dead raptors
> all the time near<br>the highway-<br>> mostly owls and marsh hawks, both
> of which soar too close to<br>the<br>> ground to clear the height of the
> big SUVs, and certainly the<br>> trucks.<br>Just awful! Except I can't
> really move further away from<br>> people, since my<br>job requires a
> major medical center- so I just watch<br>> it happening and
> feel<br>really sad.- and keep planting everything I can<br>> in my yard
> and ripping out<br>the turf!<br><br>how<br>>
> depressing-<br><br>Theresa<br>Sacramento, CA zone<br>>
> 8-9<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
> owner-gardenchat@hort.net<br>>
> [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]On<br>Behalf Of Wendy
> Swope<br>Sent:<br>> Tuesday, March 23, 2004 8:26 AM<br>To:
> gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject:<br>> Re: [CHAT] WAS Buddleia noxious
> weed? NOW mini-mansions<br><br><br>Zem<br>> and Auralie, I am
> surrounded, too. My idea of a suburban<br>> development<br>that provides
> what it is supposed to is the kind they<br>> built from the<br>1950s
> through the 1970s--cookie cutter houses (their<br>> virtue
> was<br>affordability) with nice big yards for dogs, children, and<br>>
> gardens, for<br>people who love being outside but aren't farmers or
> park<br>> rangers. This<br>is the kind of plat I live in. But the
> developments<br>> around it, dating<br>from the 1980s and marching
> endlessly forward, are<br>> all mini-mansions or<br>golf-course homes.
> The houses get bigger and<br>> bigger and the yards shrink<br>and
> shrink. I guess the golf<br>><br>> courses are better for wildlife
> than<br>pavement, but with all the<br>> herbicides necessary to maintain
> a green, not<br>much.<br><br><br>When I<br>> moved here 11 years ago, we
> had patches of wetland remaining. Now<br>the
> <b
> r>> ducks and geese all live in the parks or around retention<br>>
> ponds,<br>where, because of their droppings, they are regarded as a<br>>
> nuisance. The<br>groundhogs have moved to the parks and the local<br>>
> airfield. Yeah, they<br>are a gardener's scourge, but they still have
> a<br>> right to a safe place to<br>live. There's been a big stink about
> the<br>> coyotes that moved into the<br>field behind a neighboring
> suburb's rec<br>> center. Well, where else are<br>they going to
> go?<br><br><br>I<br>> understand the cultural dynamic that is
> driving<br>> this<br>market--two-income couples who don't have time to
> take care of a<br>> yard,<br>with kids who are constantly elsewhere. But
> if this is the way<br>> they want<br>to live, what's wrong with living
> in the city, instead of<br>> scarfing up<br>more farmland and wildlife
> habitat?! <grrrr!> This is<br>> another place<br>where it will take laws
> to change the situation,<br>> because it's cheaper<br>for the developers
> to build on "vacant" land<br>> than to go into the city<br>and knock
> down or repair existing plats.<br>> Ohio is losing farmland
> faster<br>than almost any other state in the<br>> country, if I remember
> right. We're<br>just behind Connecticut, or we<br>> were, a few years
> ago. But nothing's<br>happening in the state<br>> legislature to force
> urban renewal. We must be<br>one of the top ten<br>> greediest
> populations in the U.S.<br><br><br>In<br>>
> disgust,<br><br>Wendy<br><br><br>-----Original<br>>
> Message-----<br>Zemuly@aol.com writes:<br><br>> I'd say that could
> apply<br>> equally well to the real estate developers who<br>> have<br>>
> destroyed<br>> nearly every natural habitat in this area to build the
> ugliest<br>><br>> little boxes I have ever seen in my life!<br><br>Where
> are they building<br>> "little" boxes? Around here all the new houses
> are<br>"starter mansions"<br>> - usually fake Victorian, and hideous -
> starting around<br>3/4<br>of a<br>> million up to several million.
> W<br>><br>> ha<br>> t was once a wooded hillside behind<br>us where our
> sons
> had eight miles<br>> of bike trails now has row upon row
> of<br>these<br>monsters. Ugh! I<br>> can't imagine anyone wanting to
> live in such - think<br>> of<br>the<br>housekeeping chores. But then I
> have heard that some of<br>> them only have two<br>or three rooms
> furnished.
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