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Re: Crotch of tree : vines etc?

Re your bromeliads - gosh, that must be a beautiful sight when they bloom!
I would think this is different from debris rotting in the crotch as there
is give and take, there is moisture being taken up not just rotting.
I've never thought of vines strangling a tree, more it is a problem of the
vine's leaves shading the tree too much.
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <TeichFlora@aol.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Crotch of tree : vines etc?

> I have bromeliads (mostly Billbergia, Aechmea and Neo's) growing in  the
> crotches of my trees.  They do wonderful there with no soil, much like
they do in
> nature.  I have read that the crotch should remain clear, it may  cause
> tree to die.  However, if this happens naturally, and the plants  all
> how can it be harmful??  Is this only when one adds soil?   Apparently the
> reason the Bromeliads do so well is because they use the debris  water
> naturally collects as fertilizer...collecting in the bromeliad  rather
than the
> crotch of the tree....however, the bromeliads are in the  crotch.  Any
> Along the same lines....meant to ask several times...I read that vines
> climbing up a tree can kill it due to strangulation.  Is this true for all
> evergreen vines, or only a few???  I have fig ivy climbing all over my
Silver Maple.
>  It's all the way up to the very top.  I have not seen  any damage, it's
> like that for years.  What are your experiences,  thoughts??
> Appreciate the input.
> Noreen
> zone 9
> Texas Gulf Coast
> In a message dated 3/6/2005 11:02:29 PM Central Standard Time,
> gardenchat-owner@hort.net writes:
> one  thing mentioned in the pruning talk here was that narrow crotches
> collect  more debris.  More material sits in the crotch and  rots.
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