Re: update

Several reasons for evicting the lilacs. These were mature S. vulgaris when I got them 17 yrs ago. My xH told this guy I might like them and I came home one August day and there they were dumped in my back yard. The ivy covered south fence prevents sunlight to them in the lower 4ft. and reduces air circulation. The result is lanky, growth with flowers at the 12 ft tops of plants covered w powdery mildew. Much of the wood has rotted, some came off right in my hand as I pulled the ivy from it. Some of the lilacs were planted right up next to the fence and they grew to the south, right through the fence. You can see a portion of the area at http://snipurl.com/1e7f3 but not clearly. Maybe I'll take some new shots.
Part of me wants to keep them because they provide a great screen right where I realllllllllllly need it. But the cedar fence needs to come off the chain link to remove all the mess and that will mean destroying several of the lilacs that grew through it. Also, if I do have to get them out, this is the time to do it because of the availability of the dumpster. Any other time I don't know how I'd get rid of the big roots. 

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT" <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil> 
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] update



Why are you digging out the lilacs, are they not doing well?

Cyndi


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of Kitty
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:35 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] update

That would be great if the ivy didn't come back, but then I'd have to
think about what to do with the spot.  The whole bed is filled pretty
solid with criss-crossing ivy roots.  There are also quite a few ferns
in there that I stomped all over while I was ripping.  They're pretty
tough so I expect they'll survive - but that's not necessarily a good
thing.

Weather.com shows our lows for the next week staying above freezing, but
then about April 5 it dips just below.  Still, not too bad for anyearly
sprouters here.It's raining now but they show 60F tomorrow w/out rain.
So hopefully I can get somemore cleanup done outside.

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Theresa W" <tchessie1@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] update



Actually- I've had very little of the ivy I ripped out 5 years ago

return.

And occasional shoot that I rip out or round-up repeatedly. I'm happy

I

went to the effort to remove it when I did- and you will be too

Theresa

Kitty wrote:

Oh, man, what a day.  I took the afternoon off work.  After a few

stops

along the way home I got busy on a project I started Monday night.

17

years ago I planted a bed of about a dozen lilacs and one Magnolia

tree,

which at the time was smaller than the lilacs. The triangular bed was



along my south border chain link fence upon which I had hung cedar
fencing, much nicer looking. Then I underplanted the tree and shrubs

with

English Ivy.

Friends don't let friends plant Hedera helix.

Between yesterday and today I put in close to 10 hours ripping out

ivy.

It has made a nasty mess of the fence from my neighbor's side.  Later



I'll dig out the old lilacs - in mid-May the neighborhood will have a



dumpster for a day. Yes, I know the ivy will return, but 17 years

from

now I'll be in my 70s and hopefully I won't care.

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
To: "gardenchat list" <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 2:27 PM
Subject: [CHAT] update



It has been gorgeous out for the last few days or so here, 77 today,

but

that is all coming to end shortly- so they say! (they are claiming

the

temps dropped 17 degrees in 5 minutes) What is with this weather!


But Auralie I did notice that although many of my hellibores looked
dead, once the hot weather hit, I did get some more stalks come up

and

now I have one blooming and another about too!


Many trees and shrubs are budding out and this weather is gonna have

a

big impact whether I actually see spring blooms or not. The ponds

are up

and running. I see my waterlillies are going to have to be thinned

as I

can't believe how over run they got.-again! Fish survived and all

look

healthy, but they don't feel like being friendly, so the jury is

still

out on that. They have grown alot over the winter which kinda

surprised

me. (they usually don't double in size!)


I cut down my grasses and a few things, afraid to do too much...-

it's

gonna get cold here again!..

Donna



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