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Re: todays experience

Now, as someone whose gardens are full of very ordinary
plants...daylilies, peonies, phlox, etc. and whatever else I can pick up
at Walmart, here is another point of view...

Perhaps one of the reasons that places like Walmart and Lowes, etc.
carry so much of this very ordinary stuff is because of supply and
demand...They order what they know they can sell and obviously what many
people like myself want is just ordinary, tried and true standards. I
have a great love of gardening but am I going to go out of my way to
look for the unusual to put in my garden? Probably not and if so, then
only very, very rarely. I like the looks of a garden that is filled with
these tried and true friends, so I guess places like the big box stores
market themselves to people like me. Even when I do go out of my way to
go to a local grower, I still look for the things I am familiar with and
that are inexpensive and affordable. No way am I going to pay $30 for a
plant that I don't even know will survive. Matter of fact, I have a hard
time spending more than about $10 on any one plant, unless it's a rose.
Also, please notice that I said that in order to go to one of the local
nurseries, I would have to go out of my way to get there. Whereas, I am
at Walmart at least once a week, usually more, throughout the entire
growing season...convenience could be my middle name! :-)

Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Fri 05/07, james singer < jsinger@igc.org > wrote:
From: james singer [mailto: jsinger@igc.org]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 17:54:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [CHAT] todays experience

I agree 110%, Kitty. But it's the vision thing. And most of them don't
<br>have it. I've always suspected that if the normally inept local
<br>merchants would quit whining about Wal-Mart and start offering value
<br>[instead of same-old, same-old], they could very well whup the
Arkansas <br>titan. If you read the NYTimes or the WSJ, you know that
Wal-Mart's <br>plan in invade real cities [as opposed to jerk-water
towns like my <br>neighborhood] has stalled again. They are frightened
of competition <br>from quality merchandise. There are lessons there.
Mom and pop need to <br>wake up.<br><br>On Friday, May 7, 2004, at 05:42
PM, Kitty wrote:<br><br>&gt; Jim, you're right. But a smart nursery
buyer could spend a little time<br>&gt; looking for more options. The
min order qty can be overcome. Green <br>&gt; Mtn<br>&gt; Transplants
offers the ordinary and a few extraordinaries that you can <br>&gt;
mix<br>&gt; and match all you want at no additional cost. I'm sure there
are <br>&gt; others out<br>&gt; there. Doesn't Barry Glick - Sunshine
Farms - do this?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Also, I'm aware of a couple of small
nursery owners who split orders. <br>&gt; They<br>&gt; are on opposite
sides of town, so generally aren't competing for <br>&gt;
customers.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I think sometimes it can be the buyers'
fault. No imagination. But <br>&gt; there's<br>&gt; a caveat to sticking
with the tried and true. Small nurseries can't <br>&gt; compete<br>&gt;
with the big box stores on the same merchandise. Why pay $15 for
a<br>&gt; Rudbeckia that you can pick up for $3.99 at K-Mart?
Specializing in <br>&gt; the<br>&gt; right area, creating your niche, is
what will keep the little guy in<br>&gt; business. Your specialty might
be the kind of plants, or the service <br>&gt; or<br>&gt; even the
ambience. But it can't be the price.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;
Kitty<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>&gt; From:
&quot;james singer&quot; &lt;jsinger@igc.org&gt;<br>&gt; To:
&lt;gardenchat@hort.net&gt;<br>&gt; Sent: Friday

, May 07, 2004 3:52 PM<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [CHAT] todays
experience<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I think Lynda's got it right.
Tried and true is safe and predictable.<br>&gt;&gt; In addition, plants
are perishable and there's the minimum quantity<br>&gt;&gt; thing that
make's it iffy to buy on speculation.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; This
tendency on the part of the marketplace to standardize is
what<br>&gt;&gt; makes underground markets--plant society sales,
farmers' markets,<br>&gt;&gt; garage
sales--interesting.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; On Friday, May 7, 2004, at
09:19 AM, Lynda Young wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; The owners I've
spoken to in this area says it's better business to<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;
stick with the well-known, comfortable plants that everyone
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; recognizes.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Not enough space or money
to invest a lot in plants that most people<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;
are<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; not familiar with.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;
But, isn't that part of the fun of gardening? Stretching the
limits<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; and<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; trying something new in the
hope of finding a great addition to your<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; plantings.
Unfortunately, it seems you can only do that through<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;
mail-order in most cases. Certainly not everything you get
will<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; thrive,<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; but when an experiment
works it is a real thrill.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;
Lynda<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Zone 7 - West Tn<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;
-----Original Message-----<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; From:
owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net]
On<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Behalf Of Donna<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, May
06, 2004 9:31 PM<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;
Subject: RE: [CHAT] todays
experience<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Yeah I am
kinda worried about that.... There are so many more
choices<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; via mail order, but I always wondered about
that.. like if they are<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; really hardy and grow able here,
why i

't any of the nurseries<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; carrying<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; them? I
understand the big box stores only do the main plants, but
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; what<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; about the specialty
ones?<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; Anyone care to explain it to
Donna<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Uh-oh,
Donna. Careful - you might get hooked with this mail
order<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; thing! And, believe me, I know whereof I speak
;o)<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Lynda<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
Zone 7 - West TN<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;
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