Re: OT:moisturizer warning/ now good cosmetics

Since i have tried about every imaginable thing on my face as cleanser 
and makeup- nothing has come close to the current products I use.  I am 
delighted.  They are different than regular makeup- but in a very good way!

Theresa

P.S.  I use the Obagi-C line for face cleanser/moiturizer.

A A HODGES wrote:

>I read about that stuff and started to get some. I have a terrible time
>with eye makeup. SO it's good huh? I was hesitant to try it.
>A
>
>Andrea H
>Beaufort, SC 
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>
>  
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>>[Original Message]
>>From: Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net>
>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>Date: 5/11/2005 10:44:57 PM
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT:moisturizer warning/ now good cosmetics
>>
>>Well- Caress soap and all but the "sensitive skin" Dove make me itch 
>>like crazy.  The really great thing about the GloMinerals makeup is that 
>>is doesn't feel- not like makeup, not like powder, not like anything!  
>>As the name sounds, it is a mineral base, so I can only assume that is 
>>what is different.  I also finally found a mascara that actually washes 
>>all the way off easily (Blinc KissMe mascara).  It's really cool because 
>>it doesn't dye your eyelashes either and when you wash it off (water and 
>>friction only needed) the little tubes of mascara pull right off your 
>>lashes.  Nice thing is- you can get it wet and as long as you don't rub 
>>it- it won't come off.  Either way you never get raccoon eyes!
>>
>>Theresa
>>
>>Donna wrote:
>>
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>>
>>>Don't use anything either... only caress or dove soap. Of course, I don't
>>>use makeup either other than some occasional mascara, and then not
>>>      
>>>
>always. 
>  
>
>>>Somehow never liked how makeup felt, so even in my teen years didn't mess
>>>with the stuff, although I did use more eye enhancing stuff.
>>>
>>>I suppose some day I will regret not conditioning my skin... 
>>>
>>>Donna
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Gee, I guess I should be more grateful for oily skin, huh?  I don't
>>>>have to mess w/ any of that junk.  Have some Burt's Bees carrot oil
>>>>spray for when I garden in the winter and get windburned, but that's
>>>>about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 5/11/05, Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>You sound like me- except I finally caved and went to the esthetician
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>in
>  
>
>>>>>the dermatology and plastic surgery department here at work to find
>>>>>something to make my skin happier (or at least not quite so angry!).
>>>>>I've been using Obagi for over a year now, and I actually do not hate
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>my
>  
>
>>>>>skin for the first time ever!  I'm also using GloMineral cosmetics
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>which
>  
>
>>>>>has been wonderful too!
>>>>>
>>>>>Theresa (the woman with really sensitive and also oily skin)
>>>>>
>>>>>A A HODGES wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Kitty, although I really can't afford it, I use products by Borghese,
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>a
>  
>
>>>>>>rather expensive Italian cosmetics line (Gotta love Ebay) and my skin
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>extremely sensitive. I LOVE this stuff. Found it years ago when I was
>>>>>>working in a dept store in college. Got it free back then, went
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>through
>  
>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>all
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>those lines at the stores and finally said forget it! I'm using
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>Borghese.
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>LOVE IT! Smells divine and has been great for my skin. I sound like an
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>ad I
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>know, LOL!
>>>>>>A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Andrea H
>>>>>>Beaufort, SC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>>>>From: Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>><4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>>>>Date: 5/11/2005 5:14:10 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Biochem moisturizer warning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm wondering if maybe they got a bad batch; some sort of accident in
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>manufacturing process.  If it affects all skin in such a bad way, I
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>can't
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>see it getting approved in the first place.  The stuff I tried from
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>Avon,
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>called "Anew" has been praised by lots of people, but my skin is more
>>>>>>>sensitive and it almost burned my face off.  Sensitive skin people
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>just
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to be careful of things they try.  But if this Biochem product
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>affected
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>everyone, I'm thinking bad batch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW - out of curiosity I took a stroll over to the cosmetics area and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>looked
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>at products by Aveeno, Clearasil, Dove, Neutrogena, Face Lift, Skin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Simple,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nivea, Ponds, Loreal, and Olay.  All these brands use acids in some
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>of
>  
>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>their
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>products, including stearic acid, lauric acid, sorbic acid, linoleic
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>linolenic acids, citric acid, myristic acid, palmitic acid, and this
>>>>>>>interesting one: C18-36 acid.  This isn't counting all the alcohols
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>acetates.  Acid might just mean a beneficial ingredient that has a
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>low
>  
>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>pH,
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>doesn't mean it has to harm skin, provided it's used properly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kitty
>>>>>>>All I use on my skin is Cetaphil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kitty
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bought it OTC apparently.  The plastic surgeon was appalled when he
>>>>>>>>saw the ingredients, so there must be some kind of non-beneficial
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>acid
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>in there.  It's nuts.
>>>>>>>>And she said all the nurses who used this garbage had the same
>>>>>>>>results, terrible burns all over their faces.  I just figured I'd
>>>>>>>>better warn y'all too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 5/11/05, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
>>>>>>>><4042N15@nationalhearing.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Pam,
>>>>>>>>>Re > This garbage has ACID in it.
>>>>>>>>>There's all sorts of acids and many used in face creams, causing no
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>harm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Was your friend testing it for the manufacturer or bought it OTC?
>>>>>>>>>Years ago an Avon Rep asked me to test a new face cream.  It very
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>nearly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>removed my face.  But they are still selling it.  Some people have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>more
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>sensitive skin than others.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kitty
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [CHAT] Biochem moisturizer warning
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Not sure of the spelling of Biochem, but don't use this
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>moisturizer.
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>A nurse friend of mine just stopped by and her face is totally
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>burned
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>from this stuff, and she only had it on her face for a minute or
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>A bunch of them at her work (Medical City - Dallas) ordered this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>stuff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and used it and now they all look like they have leprosy.  It's
>>>>>>>>>>hideous.  This garbage has ACID in it.  My face could qualify for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>OPEC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>membership it's so oily, but most of you, being gardeners,
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>probably
>  
>
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>do
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>have to use moisturizer at times.
>>>>>>>>>>Do not use this kind, I'd hate for you to suffer the damage I saw
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>on
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Vicki's face tonight.  Horrendous.
>>>>>>>>>>Yes, legal action is pending.  A plastic surgeon at the hospital
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>where
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>they work is documenting everything.  But I don't want to see any
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>you get burned (literally) in the meantime.  Ugh.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>Pam Evans
>>>>>>>>>>Kemp TX
>>>>>>>>>>zone 8A
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>Kemp TX
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>>>>Kemp TX
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