Re: OT:moisturizer warning/ now good cosmetics

I still love my lemon verbena/witch hazel toner.  Cuts the "slick"
w/out drying out my skin.  I make batches for all the Ya-Ya's and
everyone just loves it.  Great for teenagers too.  Cuts down on that
"zit" problem.
Cheap & easy - what's not to like?


On 5/12/05, Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net> wrote:
> Since i have tried about every imaginable thing on my face as cleanser
> and makeup- nothing has come close to the current products I use.  I am
> delighted.  They are different than regular makeup- but in a very good way!
> 
> Theresa
> 
> P.S.  I use the Obagi-C line for face cleanser/moiturizer.
> 
> A A HODGES wrote:
> 
> >I read about that stuff and started to get some. I have a terrible time
> >with eye makeup. SO it's good huh? I was hesitant to try it.
> >A
> >
> >Andrea H
> >Beaufort, SC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>[Original Message]
> >>From: Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net>
> >>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>Date: 5/11/2005 10:44:57 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT:moisturizer warning/ now good cosmetics
> >>
> >>Well- Caress soap and all but the "sensitive skin" Dove make me itch
> >>like crazy.  The really great thing about the GloMinerals makeup is that
> >>is doesn't feel- not like makeup, not like powder, not like anything!
> >>As the name sounds, it is a mineral base, so I can only assume that is
> >>what is different.  I also finally found a mascara that actually washes
> >>all the way off easily (Blinc KissMe mascara).  It's really cool because
> >>it doesn't dye your eyelashes either and when you wash it off (water and
> >>friction only needed) the little tubes of mascara pull right off your
> >>lashes.  Nice thing is- you can get it wet and as long as you don't rub
> >>it- it won't come off.  Either way you never get raccoon eyes!
> >>
> >>Theresa
> >>
> >>Donna wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Don't use anything either... only caress or dove soap. Of course, I don't
> >>>use makeup either other than some occasional mascara, and then not
> >>>
> >>>
> >always.
> >
> >
> >>>Somehow never liked how makeup felt, so even in my teen years didn't mess
> >>>with the stuff, although I did use more eye enhancing stuff.
> >>>
> >>>I suppose some day I will regret not conditioning my skin...
> >>>
> >>>Donna
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Gee, I guess I should be more grateful for oily skin, huh?  I don't
> >>>>have to mess w/ any of that junk.  Have some Burt's Bees carrot oil
> >>>>spray for when I garden in the winter and get windburned, but that's
> >>>>about it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>On 5/11/05, Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>You sound like me- except I finally caved and went to the esthetician
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >in
> >
> >
> >>>>>the dermatology and plastic surgery department here at work to find
> >>>>>something to make my skin happier (or at least not quite so angry!).
> >>>>>I've been using Obagi for over a year now, and I actually do not hate
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >my
> >
> >
> >>>>>skin for the first time ever!  I'm also using GloMineral cosmetics
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >which
> >
> >
> >>>>>has been wonderful too!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Theresa (the woman with really sensitive and also oily skin)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>A A HODGES wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Kitty, although I really can't afford it, I use products by Borghese,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >a
> >
> >
> >>>>>>rather expensive Italian cosmetics line (Gotta love Ebay) and my skin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>extremely sensitive. I LOVE this stuff. Found it years ago when I was
> >>>>>>working in a dept store in college. Got it free back then, went
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >through
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>all
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>those lines at the stores and finally said forget it! I'm using
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>Borghese.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>LOVE IT! Smells divine and has been great for my skin. I sound like an
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>ad I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>know, LOL!
> >>>>>>A
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Andrea H
> >>>>>>Beaufort, SC
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>[Original Message]
> >>>>>>>From: Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>><4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>>>Date: 5/11/2005 5:14:10 PM
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Biochem moisturizer warning
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I'm wondering if maybe they got a bad batch; some sort of accident in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>manufacturing process.  If it affects all skin in such a bad way, I
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>can't
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>see it getting approved in the first place.  The stuff I tried from
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>Avon,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>called "Anew" has been praised by lots of people, but my skin is more
> >>>>>>>sensitive and it almost burned my face off.  Sensitive skin people
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>just
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>have
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>to be careful of things they try.  But if this Biochem product
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>affected
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>everyone, I'm thinking bad batch.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>BTW - out of curiosity I took a stroll over to the cosmetics area and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>looked
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>at products by Aveeno, Clearasil, Dove, Neutrogena, Face Lift, Skin
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>Simple,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Nivea, Ponds, Loreal, and Olay.  All these brands use acids in some
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >of
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>their
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>products, including stearic acid, lauric acid, sorbic acid, linoleic
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>linolenic acids, citric acid, myristic acid, palmitic acid, and this
> >>>>>>>interesting one: C18-36 acid.  This isn't counting all the alcohols
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>acetates.  Acid might just mean a beneficial ingredient that has a
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >low
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>pH,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>doesn't mean it has to harm skin, provided it's used properly.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Kitty
> >>>>>>>All I use on my skin is Cetaphil
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Kitty
> >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Bought it OTC apparently.  The plastic surgeon was appalled when he
> >>>>>>>>saw the ingredients, so there must be some kind of non-beneficial
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>acid
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>in there.  It's nuts.
> >>>>>>>>And she said all the nurses who used this garbage had the same
> >>>>>>>>results, terrible burns all over their faces.  I just figured I'd
> >>>>>>>>better warn y'all too.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On 5/11/05, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> >>>>>>>><4042N15@nationalhearing.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Pam,
> >>>>>>>>>Re > This garbage has ACID in it.
> >>>>>>>>>There's all sorts of acids and many used in face creams, causing no
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>harm.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Was your friend testing it for the manufacturer or bought it OTC?
> >>>>>>>>>Years ago an Avon Rep asked me to test a new face cream.  It very
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>nearly
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>removed my face.  But they are still selling it.  Some people have
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>more
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>sensitive skin than others.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Kitty
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>>From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:13 PM
> >>>>>>>>>Subject: [CHAT] Biochem moisturizer warning
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Not sure of the spelling of Biochem, but don't use this
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>moisturizer.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>A nurse friend of mine just stopped by and her face is totally
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>burned
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>from this stuff, and she only had it on her face for a minute or
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>two.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>A bunch of them at her work (Medical City - Dallas) ordered this
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>stuff
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>and used it and now they all look like they have leprosy.  It's
> >>>>>>>>>>hideous.  This garbage has ACID in it.  My face could qualify for
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>OPEC
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>membership it's so oily, but most of you, being gardeners,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >probably
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>do
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>have to use moisturizer at times.
> >>>>>>>>>>Do not use this kind, I'd hate for you to suffer the damage I saw
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>on
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Vicki's face tonight.  Horrendous.
> >>>>>>>>>>Yes, legal action is pending.  A plastic surgeon at the hospital
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>where
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>they work is documenting everything.  But I don't want to see any
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>you get burned (literally) in the meantime.  Ugh.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>>Pam Evans
> >>>>>>>>>>Kemp TX
> >>>>>>>>>>zone 8A
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>-
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>Pam Evans
> >>>>>>>>Kemp TX
> >>>>>>>>zone 8A
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Pam Evans
> >>>>Kemp TX
> >>>>zone 8A
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Kemp TX
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