Re: More weather, and other stuff
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- Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 12:08:16 -0400
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These are tiny wasps--predator size wasps, smaller and more fragile looking than house flies. And they must not be colonizers because they are not in the least hostile. They are paper wasps; they build flute-shaped nests of about five cells, often in unlikely spots, like the bottom of a plastic hanging basket.
On May 7, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT wrote:
Lots of newspaper articles about the honeybee die-off claim avocados as one of the fruits that would be hard hit by the loss of bees. I have seen avocado honey for sale too, at the Carpenteria avocado festival (I didn't buy it). But where you are there must be a different pollinator, interesting. We have bumblebees, honeybees, and a couple other little bee-like creatures I haven't tried to identify. We have leaf-cutter bees, probably I shouldn't like them but I do, they rarely cause a lot of damage and I like the little circles they leave - makes a sort of art-deco look. There are a couple kinds of wasps, yellowjackets are common, paper wasps not so common, and mud daubers also not so common. Cyndi -----Original Message----- From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of james singer Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:25 AM To: gardenchat@hort.net Subject: Re: [CHAT] More weather, and other stuff Guess I need to make and keep a bug census. Honeybees are irrelevant to mangos, avocados, black sapotes, and annonas [sugar apples andatemoyas]. Major pollinators for these are wasps--small ones, maybe morethan one kind--bumblebees, and flies. I think ants may be involved in some plants; papaya comes to mind. Of course honeybees are pollinatorsof citrus; I don't know what other insects [if any] are involved, but weseem to have had a normal year for setting here. On May 5, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Daryl wrote:I have no honey bees. No tiny pollinators, few bumbles, a normal bunchof carpenter bees, no Mason Bees. Even without the freeze, I don't think we would have had apples or holly berries. I only saw one honeybee near the apple trees, and it wasn't working the flowers, it was just banging into things like a drunk. Normally the honeybees work the hollies, since they bloom so early. I usually hear them through the open window even though the Holly is several feet away. Just a couple of mason bees on it this year. The masons seem to have gone away now, too. In the last few years, since the varroa and tracheal mite problems, we've had fewer honeybees, but lots of native bees. Nada. Another scary thing is the lack of the tiny pollinators/beneficials that normally visit the Giant Red Mustard that I allow to flower. I didn't see them on the blooming Kales and Cabbages at client gardens, either. I fear for our planet. d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com> To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [CHAT] More weather, and other stuffI have tons of bees, honey, bumble and leafcutters. I think they appreciate the organic wildlife habitat and the abundance of herbs, flowers and such. I haven't seen any decline and would be very sad to see it. On 5/4/07, Zemuly Sanders <zemuly@comcast.net> wrote:I seem to have a lot of honeybees in my yard, and I surely do hope they stay there. The ones around here live mostly in hives of theirown design. zem zone 7 West TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net> To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] More weather, and other stuffGlad to hear that some are doing well...we are having enoughtrouble withfood without losing a major pollinator. We used to have a numberin myneighborhood but for the past couple of years, I've only seenyellowjackets and sweat bees. Bonnie Zone 7/7 ETN Remember: The River Raisin, The Alamo, The Maine, Pearl Harbor,9/11[Original Message] From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Date: 5/4/2007 4:45:17 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] More weather, and other stuff Honeybees kept in artificial--that is, man made--hives have been victims of various fungi, predators, and whatever, off and onsincewhoever brought them here from Europe originally. Asked to guess,Iwould venture that feral bees have a much greater chance ofsurvival,if only because the invasive little critters live in hives oftheir >> owndesign and choosing once they escape the wicker baskets and wooden boxes of husbandry. On May 4, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRTwrote:They are honeybees. I have heard about the colony collapsedisorder(they are suspecting a particular fungus now), but these beesappear tobe pretty active. Haven't seen any dead ones yet. Cyndi -----Original Message----- From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net[o*@hort.net] >> > OnBehalf Of Bonnie Holmes Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:51 AM To: gardenchat@hort.net Subject: RE: [CHAT] More weather, and other stuff I'm surprised about the bees...are you sure they are bees andnotyellow jackets? Bees have been dying in the US...many beekeepers havelostmost of their hives and no one knows the answer...referred toas theAIDS of bees...they just disappear...no dead remains to help IDthecause. Maybe they have all migrated to your state? Bonnie Zone 7/7 ETN Remember: The River Raisin, The Alamo, The Maine, PearlHarbor, >> > 9/11[Original Message] From: Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT >> >><cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Date: 5/4/2007 2:20:13 PM Subject: [CHAT] More weather, and other stuff I guess we are back to Dirt Days - the forecast is calling forwinds greater than 50mph today. It has been building up for a coupledaysnow, I drove through the dirt clouds last night going home. I'mtryingto decide which is hardest on my spring garden - the howlingwinds orthe 90F unseasonable temps we had last weekend. What a choice!Atleast with the high temps I could enjoy being outside even ifthegarden was cooking. When it was hot I was noticing all the bees. My spanishlavender >> >> wascovered with them, I think every blossom had a bee on it,hundreds andhundreds of them. Many more than I usually see. I don't knowif wehave more bees than usual or if I have more food for them thananywhere else.On the plus side, I am now able to sit on the ground to weed, Istillneed my chair to help me get up again, but I can see normal >>movementwill be possible before too long. Woohoo! I won't be ridingfor awhile because we have some weekend commitments coming up, but I suppose that gives everything a chance to heal up really well beforeIget on again.There's still ground squirrels in the garden, and way too manyrabbits.There is a small patch of grass out by the horse corrals,maybe 4 feetsquare, it's where we toss the hose after filling horsetroughs so itgets water splashed. I went out to feed the other night andthere were5 rabbits munching away. They didn't even move till I got veryclose.Grrrr, I told husband he had better start taking the pelletgun >> >> withhim. If they stopped with the grass all would be well but theyaregoing after my pea plants (of course) and soon they'll noticethelettuce. I wish I could see them getting in, I keep pluggingholes inthe fence but they are amazing at finding new ones. 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