Re: news of the day


>  Stuff is - ...Having a 50" TV in every room in the house when one or two
> would suffice ...

One 50 inch tv will suffice for you?  I have a 27 inch.  I guess I don't
have enough stuff. :+)

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day


> Bonnie, plants are not "stuff" they are living things! They are
> important to us and the quality of our lives in enhanced by their
> presence, much like pets. You need the containers to put them in and
> books to take care of them! Stuff is - excess junk - more furniture than
> you could ever need. More clothes/shoes than ten people could wear and
> like that! Having a 50" TV in every room in the house when one or two
> would suffice and so on.
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date:  Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:31:25 -0800
>
> >What really slammed me about 'stuff' was helping my brothers and sisters
> >get my parent's home ready for sale in one weekend after my Dad went into
> >emergency care.  It seemed to me that we spend our early years
accumulating
> >'stuff' and the end of our lives getting rid of it.  And, don't get me
> >wrong, my husband and I have a large house and garage full of 'stuff'.
We
> >are both collectors and pack rats.  In my early life, I taught in the
first
> >Head Start programs.  We started without anything.  I remember a seminar
on
> >'Beautiful Junk' that taught us to use all sorts of throwaway things.  It
> >just added to my inclination to look for "possibilities" for everything.
> >One of my long-term goals is to pare down my 'stuff' to those things I
> >really need and love.   But, here I am, buying more plants, containers,
and
> >plant books.
> >
> >Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Date: 11/08/2003 11:03:20 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> >>
> >> You know, I like "stuff".  I like my computer, my tv, my stereo.  I
like
> >all
> >> the various office supply stuff I keep around to have just the right
thing
> >> for a project.  I like all the stuff in my garage that makes gardening
> >> easier and more fun.  I will like my new kitchen cabinets if they ever
> >> finish installing them, even though the old ones (40yrs) were still ok.
[I
> >> put them in the garage to hold more stuff].  I like my Harmony Kingdom
> >> stuff - gives me sort of a tickle just to look at them.  I like my
garden
> >> cat stuff, though they aren't necessary to enjoy the garden.  I like
> >stuff.
> >>
> >> But there is a point when people need to say, I have enough stuff to
keep
> >me
> >> happy, maybe I could help someone else out with the stuff they need.
And
> >> even when we don't yet have all the stuff we need or want, maybe we
could
> >> wait just a little longer and help someone else get some deperately
needed
> >> stuff.
> >>
> >> And if I have to do without some of the stuff I really want or even
think
> >I
> >> really need because it adversely impacts someone else or the
environment,
> >> that's ok, too.  Surely we can find alternatives.
> >>
> >> Kitty
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:31 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> >>
> >>
> >> > In my mind I can point to the time "greed" became the mantra for
> >corporate
> >> > America.  I was working in D.C. in a large law firm in the late
1970's.
> >> > Ringer's book, "Looking Out For Number One" was on the best seller
list
> >> and
> >> > required reading for managers of many large firms.  It seems to me
that
> >> > from that point forward the emphasis was on self...what one could
> >acquire,
> >> > how much one could spend on cars, houses, etc., buying the best and
> >> > bragging on it.  Problems of those less fortunate didn't concern
those
> >on
> >> > this track unless they were directly involved.  The thought of giving
> >back
> >> > to the community whose structure and principles allowed great success
> >was
> >> > completely lost.
> >> >
> >> > Enough...my soapbox just turned over.
> >> >
> >> > Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > [Original Message]
> >> > > From: Marge Talt <mtalt@hort.net>
> >> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> > > Date: 11/07/2003 9:07:17 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> >> > >
> >> > > > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> >> > > > > May we someday wake up and go for more renewable, cleaner,
energy
> >> > > sources!
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll second that!  However, I very much fear that money is what
> >> > > drives things the world around and as long as those with vested
> >> > > interests in keeping the status quo are the ones donating mammoth
> >> > > sums to election campaigns, I can guarantee that renewable energy
is
> >> > > going to stay firmly in the rumble seat.  When you stop and think
> >> > > about the vast network of businesses that depend on oil in some
form
> >> > > for their existence, you can see that the vested interests are
large.
> >> > >
> >> > > Until some disaster occurs, this nation seems set on reaction
instead
> >> > > of proaction, and then seems to waste time, money and energy in
> >> > > trying to point to fix responsibility on some entity - witness the
> >> > > eastcoast black out this year -  (I guess so people can sue them)
> >> > > instead of saying "Hello..it's time to do something about
> >> > > this"...just too much power in the hands of a few extremely
> >> > > short-sighted and profit-motivated persons.
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, I don't have anything against making a nice profit in business
> >> > > (only wish we could manage that), but there is profit and there is
> >> > > greed; today, greed is winning hands down.
> >> > >
> >> > > Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> >> > > mtalt@hort.net
> >> > > Editor:  Gardening in Shade
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