Re: news of the day


My father is a terrible packrat and therefore I'm not.  I do buy things I
realize I don't need or that didn't perform as I'd hoped.  So I have a
garage sale.  I hate clutter.  When my father does die or has to give up his
home, it will be a nightmare cleaning out that place.  I believe he still
has 3 old Tandy computers as well as many since that time.  Then the record
collections.  And anything like tvs, vcrs, cameras, he always has 3 of each.
And 3 of each kind.  And general junk.  We're gonna need a dumpster.

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day


> What really slammed me about 'stuff' was helping my brothers and sisters
> get my parent's home ready for sale in one weekend after my Dad went into
> emergency care.  It seemed to me that we spend our early years
accumulating
> 'stuff' and the end of our lives getting rid of it.  And, don't get me
> wrong, my husband and I have a large house and garage full of 'stuff'.  We
> are both collectors and pack rats.  In my early life, I taught in the
first
> Head Start programs.  We started without anything.  I remember a seminar
on
> 'Beautiful Junk' that taught us to use all sorts of throwaway things.  It
> just added to my inclination to look for "possibilities" for everything.
> One of my long-term goals is to pare down my 'stuff' to those things I
> really need and love.   But, here I am, buying more plants, containers,
and
> plant books.
>
> Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
>
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Date: 11/08/2003 11:03:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> >
> > You know, I like "stuff".  I like my computer, my tv, my stereo.  I like
> all
> > the various office supply stuff I keep around to have just the right
thing
> > for a project.  I like all the stuff in my garage that makes gardening
> > easier and more fun.  I will like my new kitchen cabinets if they ever
> > finish installing them, even though the old ones (40yrs) were still ok.
[I
> > put them in the garage to hold more stuff].  I like my Harmony Kingdom
> > stuff - gives me sort of a tickle just to look at them.  I like my
garden
> > cat stuff, though they aren't necessary to enjoy the garden.  I like
> stuff.
> >
> > But there is a point when people need to say, I have enough stuff to
keep
> me
> > happy, maybe I could help someone else out with the stuff they need.
And
> > even when we don't yet have all the stuff we need or want, maybe we
could
> > wait just a little longer and help someone else get some deperately
needed
> > stuff.
> >
> > And if I have to do without some of the stuff I really want or even
think
> I
> > really need because it adversely impacts someone else or the
environment,
> > that's ok, too.  Surely we can find alternatives.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> >
> >
> > > In my mind I can point to the time "greed" became the mantra for
> corporate
> > > America.  I was working in D.C. in a large law firm in the late
1970's.
> > > Ringer's book, "Looking Out For Number One" was on the best seller
list
> > and
> > > required reading for managers of many large firms.  It seems to me
that
> > > from that point forward the emphasis was on self...what one could
> acquire,
> > > how much one could spend on cars, houses, etc., buying the best and
> > > bragging on it.  Problems of those less fortunate didn't concern those
> on
> > > this track unless they were directly involved.  The thought of giving
> back
> > > to the community whose structure and principles allowed great success
> was
> > > completely lost.
> > >
> > > Enough...my soapbox just turned over.
> > >
> > > Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Marge Talt <mtalt@hort.net>
> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > > Date: 11/07/2003 9:07:17 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> > > >
> > > > > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> > > > > > May we someday wake up and go for more renewable, cleaner,
energy
> > > > sources!
> > > >
> > > > I'll second that!  However, I very much fear that money is what
> > > > drives things the world around and as long as those with vested
> > > > interests in keeping the status quo are the ones donating mammoth
> > > > sums to election campaigns, I can guarantee that renewable energy is
> > > > going to stay firmly in the rumble seat.  When you stop and think
> > > > about the vast network of businesses that depend on oil in some form
> > > > for their existence, you can see that the vested interests are
large.
> > > >
> > > > Until some disaster occurs, this nation seems set on reaction
instead
> > > > of proaction, and then seems to waste time, money and energy in
> > > > trying to point to fix responsibility on some entity - witness the
> > > > eastcoast black out this year -  (I guess so people can sue them)
> > > > instead of saying "Hello..it's time to do something about
> > > > this"...just too much power in the hands of a few extremely
> > > > short-sighted and profit-motivated persons.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I don't have anything against making a nice profit in business
> > > > (only wish we could manage that), but there is profit and there is
> > > > greed; today, greed is winning hands down.
> > > >
> > > > Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> > > > mtalt@hort.net
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