RE: news of the day: t-shirts

God help me, I'm on everyone's mailing list!

I get a teak furniture catalogue - I've called and asked to be removed, I can' 
afford a teak shish kabob stick! They said they can't take me off.

I get a chef's catalogue - I've called and asked to be removed, I don't cook!
I get a goth catalogue - who knows why?
I get some sort of gay men's Italian art catalogue - beat's me!
I get an artist's catalogue - I can't draw.
I get a Hanes catalogue - I haven't worn pantyhose in at least 5 yrs!
I get a farm implement catalogue - yeah, my lot is 60x120'.
And yes, not long ago I got some sort of pagan/satan/witch catalogue - pretty 
interesting, but I can't even guess how I got on their list.

Kitty



I love to read those T-shirts
> And where, dear lady, did you see the "sister" shirt?  Nothern Sun?  Are you 
> one of those "Born Again Pagans"?   LOL
> 
> Thanks for the seeds and plant info too.  Very much appreciated!
> 
> Jesse Rene' Bell
> 
> 
> 
> >From: kmrsy@comcast.net
> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >Subject: RE: [CHAT] news of the day: t-shirts
> >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:15:52 +0000
> >
> >I thought that would be the one you'd ordered.  I've seen the 'sister' 
> >shirt, too.  what a riot!
> >Kitty
> > > The - Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic. With all the
> > > stress we're under at work now - we need the humor!! I'm wearing my - I
> > > haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister - shirt today.
> > > That was special requested yesterday - LOL.
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > From: kmrsy@comcast.net
> > > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > Date:  Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:36:41 +0000
> > >
> > > >Pam,
> > > >I only mentioned it on this list. The catalogue was mailed out 
> >recently,
> > > >so the shortage is either due to people ordering from the catalogue or
> > > >because they wait to see how many orders they get from the catalogue
> > > >before they place their orders to their suppliers. Which one did you
> > > >order?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I would love to get the Christmas Story Leg Lamp as a joke for my 
> >niece, but it
> > > is far too expensive for just a joke.
> > > >
> > > >Kitty
> > > >> Kitty - how many people did you tell about those T-shirts from What 
> >On
> > > >> Earth? They're on back order due to unanticipated demand!! What a
> > > >> scream. I ordered one for my boss too - he's got a birthday coming 
> >up.
> > > >> Can't wait to get mine.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > >> From: "Theresa" <tchessie@comcast.net>
> > > >> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >> Date:  Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:39:53 -0800
> > > >>
> > > >> >Perfect Kitty- thanks for sharing!
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Theresa
> > > >> >
> > > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> >From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
> > > >> >Behalf Of kmrsy@comcast.net
> > > >> >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:01 AM
> > > >> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >> >Subject: RE: [CHAT] news of the day: hyrid cars
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >For those of you who do not get the comic, Non Sequitur, in your 
> >local
> > > >> >paper, or who don't read comics (???) check this one out - it 
> >applies to
> > > >> >much of what we've been discussing:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >If you are reading this message after Nov 11, click the calendar on 
> >the
> > > >> >above page to see the strip for Nov 11.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Kitty
> > > >> >> Speaking of cars- we were car shopping today=  My husbands 91 
> >Civic is on
> > > >> >> it's last leg.  The new hybrid Civic is very cool-  51 mpg and 
> >very peppy
> > > >> >> and comfortable.  You don't even need to plug it in ever.  It's so 
> >quiet
> > > >> >> too....  I'm pushing for this one as a replacement.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Theresa
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net 
> >[o*@hort.net]On
> > > >> >> Behalf Of Jesse Bell
> > > >> >> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:58 AM
> > > >> >> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Man...I've been reading these e-mails....and ya'll just don't 
> >know.  Pam
> > > >> >> does though.  I'm just about ready to sell everything I have and 
> >live in a
> > > >> >> shoebox somewhere.  People (my husband) create their own stress.  
> >House
> > > >> >> payment too high?  Sell it.  Car payments getting you down?  Buy 
> >something
> > > >> >> more reasonable.  When my husband started oogling Humvee's I lost 
> >it and
> > > >> >put
> > > >> >> my foot down.  I said, "they are a gross display of American greed 
> >and
> > > >> >> one-upsmanship....look at me, look at me...my truck is bigger than 
> >your
> > > >> >> truck!"  He looked shocked that I would feel this way.  Does any 
> >person
> > > >> >need
> > > >> >> what was formerly an army vehicle to drive to work and back.  NO.  
> >I told
> > > >> >> him he better not bring one of them home either.  I'm looking at a
> > > >> >> turbo-diesel Volkswagen that gets great gas mileage...and he's 
> >looking at
> > > >> >a
> > > >> >> Hummer.  PULeeeze.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >From: kmrsy@comcast.net
> > > >> >> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >> >> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> > > >> >> >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:48:20 +0000
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >People buy what is available. If auto mfgs were required to build 
> >more
> > > >> >> >fuel efficient/alternative fuel cars, that's what people would 
> >buy. And,
> > > >> >> >as Marge said, when we stop buying things, it affects someone's 
> >income.
> > > >> >> >I know this doesn't apply to all 'things', but it's a start.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Regardless, I don't know how you'd go about changing peoples 
> >proclivity
> > > >> >> >for shopping. Tighter restrictions perhaps on credit cards and
> > > >> >> >bankruptcy laws.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > > But most of these products require an oil-based economy...and 
> >when we
> > > >> >> >buy
> > > >> >> > > lots of things...we continue to fuel it.  If a significant 
> >part of the
> > > >> >> > > society stopped fueling it, those at the top would have to 
> >change
> > > >> >their
> > > >> >> > > strategy.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > > [Original Message]
> > > >> >> > > > From: <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > > >> >> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > >> >> > > > Date: 11/10/2003 6:09:32 AM
> > > >> >> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > Marge,
> > > >> >> > > > I agree with most of what you said regarding greed, though I 
> >see the
> > > >> >> > > value of a well-controlled credit card.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > I don't so much have problems with the kind of greed that 
> >wants too
> > > >> >> >many
> > > >> >> > > > clothes or tv sets, but with greed by those who run the 
> >show. They
> > > >> >> > > > inisist on an oil based economy no matter who or what it 
> >hurts
> > > >> >because
> > > >> >> > > > they are heavily invested in it. Alternatives already exist 
> >or can
> > > >> >be
> > > >> >> > > > developed, but they refuse to go that route and they're big 
> >enough
> > > >> >to
> > > >> >> > > > get their way.
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > > > Kitty
> > > >> >> > > > > Well, Pam, I think greed has been with the human race 
> >since we
> > > >> >> > > > > started walking upright.  Just seems there are fewer 
> >societal
> > > >> >> > > > > restraints on it now than there used to be - or maybe just 
> >more
> > > >> >> > > > > opportunities for people to indulge.  Being greedy used to 
> >be
> > > >> >> >frowned
> > > >> >> > > > > upon; now it seems to be the norm.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > I also think that the relative wealth and size of our 
> >"middle
> > > >> >class"
> > > >> >> > > > > encourages greed - as does our consumer oriented society.  
> >Used to
> > > >> >> >be
> > > >> >> > > > > - for the vast majority of people - that ' use it 'til it 
> >wears
> > > >> >out,
> > > >> >> > > > > then do without' was how things worked.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > During the depression, my Mom had 1 dress she wore every 
> >day to
> > > >> >high
> > > >> >> > > > > school - it had removable collar and cuffs - think she 
> >told me
> > > >> >there
> > > >> >> > > > > were 2 sets - she washed them out every night and 
> >alternated them.
> > > >> >> > > > > Before her time, few but the upper classes and  wealthy 
> >had more
> > > >> >> >than
> > > >> >> > > > > one garment for every day wear and one for 'best'...the 
> >old
> > > >> >"Sunday
> > > >> >> > > > > Best" (even when I was a child, we still had our "Sunday 
> >Best"
> > > >> >> > > > > outfit; worn only on Sunday or for very special 
> >occasions).
> > > >> >Today,
> > > >> >> > > > > people have closets bursting with clothes and keep on 
> >buying them
> > > >> >> > > > > although what they have is perfectly good.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > Now, we have a throwaway society in this country; all 
> >closely tied
> > > >> >> >to
> > > >> >> > > > > our entire economic operation - and that operation is now 
> >closely
> > > >> >> > > > > knit to the rest of the world economy; was just reading an 
> >article
> > > >> >> >in
> > > >> >> > > > > the paper today about how almost every Christmas 
> >decoration or
> > > >> >fake
> > > >> >> > > > > tree sold here in the US is made in China; so if we don't 
> >buy new
> > > >> >> > > > > Christmas goodies, it now adversely affects some poor 
> >Chinese
> > > >> >person
> > > >> >> > > > > earning a big $100/month.  Sort of an unending circle.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > When society operated on a cash basis, people could only 
> >get what
> > > >> >> > > > > they could actually afford to pay for up front; most did 
> >without.
> > > >> >> > > > > Once we got a credit based society, everybody can get 
> >about
> > > >> >anything
> > > >> >> > > > > if they have plastic and people do...so we're always in 
> >debt (at
> > > >> >> > > > > least a lot are) while accumulating lots of 'stuff' that 
> >we really
> > > >> >> > > > > don't actually need, but providing thousands of jobs in 
> >hundreds
> > > >> >of
> > > >> >> > > > > related industries.  If everybody cut back to getting only 
> >what
> > > >> >they
> > > >> >> > > > > needed; millions would be out of work all over the 
> >world...
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > The reverse side of this coin is that all the greedy 
> >consumerism
> > > >> >> > > > > provides better paying jobs and higher standards of living 
> >to more
> > > >> >> > > > > people than ever before in the history of mankind.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > So, how do you strike a happy medium....keeping up 
> >people's
> > > >> >standard
> > > >> >> > > > > of living but eliminating the greed as SOP factor?  Can it 
> >be
> > > >> >done?
> > > >> >> > > > > I would hope that we - as a society - can at least put 
> >some curbs
> > > >> >on
> > > >> >> > > > > the current trends.  The scandals about salaries for the 
> >big
> > > >> >> > > > > corporation CEO's is a small start - if it doesn't just 
> >fizzle
> > > >> >out.
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> > > >> >> > > > > mtalt@hort.net
> > > >> >> > > > > Editor:  Gardening in Shade
> > > >> >> > > > > -----------------------------------------------
> > > >> >> > > > > Current Article: Variegation on the Green Theme - Part One
> > > >> >> > > > > http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/shade_gardening
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> > > >> >> > > > > ----------
> > > >> >> > > > > > From: Pamela J. Evans <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > Bonnie & Marge, I've been turning that soapbox over for 
> >years.
> > > >> >> > > > > Don't
> > > >> >> > > > > > understand greed, never have, but it is evil and is 
> >undermining
> > > >> >> > > > > every
> > > >> >> > > > > > society it touches. Priorities these days are severely 
> >messed
> > > >> >up.
> > > >> >> > > > > The
> > > >> >> > > > > > sooner ALL get hip to that, the better off we'll be. But 
> >try to
> > > >> >> > > > > preach
> > > >> >> > > > > > that sermon and people look at you like you have two 
> >heads or
> > > >> >> > > > > sprouted
> > > >> >> > > > > > horns or something. My cousin and her husband just 
> >returned from
> > > >> >> > > > > Russia
> > > >> >> > > > > > where they were picking up their newly adopted kids and 
> >she told
> > > >> >> >me
> > > >> >> > > > > most
> > > >> >> > > > > > Americans would be appalled at the conditions these 
> >people live
> > > >> >> >in.
> > > >> >> > > > > Even
> > > >> >> > > > > > as simply as I live, my little cottage/shack would look 
> >like a
> > > >> >> > > > > palace
> > > >> >> > > > > > over there. Wish more people could see that for 
> >themselves.
> > > >> >Might
> > > >> >> > > > > wake
> > > >> >> > > > > > them up a bit.
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > I can dream, can't I?
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > ---------- Original Message 
> >----------------------------------
> > > >> >> > > > > > From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
> > > >> >> > > > > > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >> >> > > > > > Date:  Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:31:44 -0800
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > >In my mind I can point to the time "greed" became the 
> >mantra
> > > >> >for
> > > >> >> > > > > corporate
> > > >> >> > > > > > >America.  I was working in D.C. in a large law firm in 
> >the late
> > > >> >> > > > > 1970's.
> > > >> >> > > > > > >Ringer's book, "Looking Out For Number One" was on the 
> >best
> > > >> >> >seller
> > > >> >> > > > > list and
> > > >> >> > > > > > >required reading for managers of many large firms.  It 
> >seems to
> > > >> >> >me
> > > >> >> > > > > that
> > > >> >> > > > > > >from that point forward the emphasis was on self...what 
> >one
> > > >> >could
> > > >> >> > > > > acquire,
> > > >> >> > > > > > >how much one could spend on cars, houses, etc., buying 
> >the best
> > > >> >> > > > > and
> > > >> >> > > > > > >bragging on it.  Problems of those less fortunate 
> >didn't
> > > >> >concern
> > > >> >> > > > > those on
> > > >> >> > > > > > >this track unless they were directly involved.  The 
> >thought of
> > > >> >> > > > > giving back
> > > >> >> > > > > > >to the community whose structure and principles allowed 
> >great
> > > >> >> > > > > success was
> > > >> >> > > > > > >completely lost.
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > >Enough...my soapbox just turned over.
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > >Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
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