RE: news of the day: t-shirts

I thought that would be the one you'd ordered.  I've seen the 'sister' shirt, too.  what a riot!
Kitty
> The - Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic. With all the
> stress we're under at work now - we need the humor!! I'm wearing my - I
> haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister - shirt today.
> That was special requested yesterday - LOL.
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: kmrsy@comcast.net
> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date:  Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:36:41 +0000
> 
> >Pam, 
> >I only mentioned it on this list. The catalogue was mailed out recently,
> >so the shortage is either due to people ordering from the catalogue or
> >because they wait to see how many orders they get from the catalogue
> >before they place their orders to their suppliers. Which one did you
> >order?
> >
> >
> >I would love to get the Christmas Story Leg Lamp as a joke for my niece, but it 
> is far too expensive for just a joke.
> >
> >Kitty
> >> Kitty - how many people did you tell about those T-shirts from What On
> >> Earth? They're on back order due to unanticipated demand!! What a
> >> scream. I ordered one for my boss too - he's got a birthday coming up.
> >> Can't wait to get mine.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >> From: "Theresa" <tchessie@comcast.net>
> >> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> Date:  Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:39:53 -0800
> >> 
> >> >Perfect Kitty- thanks for sharing!
> >> >
> >> >Theresa
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
> >> >Behalf Of kmrsy@comcast.net
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:01 AM
> >> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> >Subject: RE: [CHAT] news of the day: hyrid cars
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >For those of you who do not get the comic, Non Sequitur, in your local
> >> >paper, or who don't read comics (???) check this one out - it applies to
> >> >much of what we've been discussing:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/
> >> >
> >> >If you are reading this message after Nov 11, click the calendar on the
> >> >above page to see the strip for Nov 11.
> >> >
> >> >Kitty
> >> >> Speaking of cars- we were car shopping today=  My husbands 91 Civic is on
> >> >> it's last leg.  The new hybrid Civic is very cool-  51 mpg and very peppy
> >> >> and comfortable.  You don't even need to plug it in ever.  It's so quiet
> >> >> too....  I'm pushing for this one as a replacement.
> >> >>
> >> >> Theresa
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
> >> >> Behalf Of Jesse Bell
> >> >> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:58 AM
> >> >> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Man...I've been reading these e-mails....and ya'll just don't know.  Pam
> >> >> does though.  I'm just about ready to sell everything I have and live in a
> >> >> shoebox somewhere.  People (my husband) create their own stress.  House
> >> >> payment too high?  Sell it.  Car payments getting you down?  Buy something
> >> >> more reasonable.  When my husband started oogling Humvee's I lost it and
> >> >put
> >> >> my foot down.  I said, "they are a gross display of American greed and
> >> >> one-upsmanship....look at me, look at me...my truck is bigger than your
> >> >> truck!"  He looked shocked that I would feel this way.  Does any person
> >> >need
> >> >> what was formerly an army vehicle to drive to work and back.  NO.  I told
> >> >> him he better not bring one of them home either.  I'm looking at a
> >> >> turbo-diesel Volkswagen that gets great gas mileage...and he's looking at
> >> >a
> >> >> Hummer.  PULeeeze.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >From: kmrsy@comcast.net
> >> >> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> >> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> >> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> >> >> >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:48:20 +0000
> >> >> >
> >> >> >People buy what is available. If auto mfgs were required to build more
> >> >> >fuel efficient/alternative fuel cars, that's what people would buy. And,
> >> >> >as Marge said, when we stop buying things, it affects someone's income.
> >> >> >I know this doesn't apply to all 'things', but it's a start.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Regardless, I don't know how you'd go about changing peoples proclivity
> >> >> >for shopping. Tighter restrictions perhaps on credit cards and
> >> >> >bankruptcy laws.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > But most of these products require an oil-based economy...and when we
> >> >> >buy
> >> >> > > lots of things...we continue to fuel it.  If a significant part of the
> >> >> > > society stopped fueling it, those at the top would have to change
> >> >their
> >> >> > > strategy.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > [Original Message]
> >> >> > > > From: <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> >> >> > > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> >> > > > Date: 11/10/2003 6:09:32 AM
> >> >> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] news of the day
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Marge,
> >> >> > > > I agree with most of what you said regarding greed, though I see the
> >> >> > > value of a well-controlled credit card.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > I don't so much have problems with the kind of greed that wants too
> >> >> >many
> >> >> > > > clothes or tv sets, but with greed by those who run the show. They
> >> >> > > > inisist on an oil based economy no matter who or what it hurts
> >> >because
> >> >> > > > they are heavily invested in it. Alternatives already exist or can
> >> >be
> >> >> > > > developed, but they refuse to go that route and they're big enough
> >> >to
> >> >> > > > get their way.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Kitty
> >> >> > > > > Well, Pam, I think greed has been with the human race since we
> >> >> > > > > started walking upright.  Just seems there are fewer societal
> >> >> > > > > restraints on it now than there used to be - or maybe just more
> >> >> > > > > opportunities for people to indulge.  Being greedy used to be
> >> >> >frowned
> >> >> > > > > upon; now it seems to be the norm.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > I also think that the relative wealth and size of our "middle
> >> >class"
> >> >> > > > > encourages greed - as does our consumer oriented society.  Used to
> >> >> >be
> >> >> > > > > - for the vast majority of people - that ' use it 'til it wears
> >> >out,
> >> >> > > > > then do without' was how things worked.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > During the depression, my Mom had 1 dress she wore every day to
> >> >high
> >> >> > > > > school - it had removable collar and cuffs - think she told me
> >> >there
> >> >> > > > > were 2 sets - she washed them out every night and alternated them.
> >> >> > > > > Before her time, few but the upper classes and  wealthy had more
> >> >> >than
> >> >> > > > > one garment for every day wear and one for 'best'...the old
> >> >"Sunday
> >> >> > > > > Best" (even when I was a child, we still had our "Sunday Best"
> >> >> > > > > outfit; worn only on Sunday or for very special occasions).
> >> >Today,
> >> >> > > > > people have closets bursting with clothes and keep on buying them
> >> >> > > > > although what they have is perfectly good.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Now, we have a throwaway society in this country; all closely tied
> >> >> >to
> >> >> > > > > our entire economic operation - and that operation is now closely
> >> >> > > > > knit to the rest of the world economy; was just reading an article
> >> >> >in
> >> >> > > > > the paper today about how almost every Christmas decoration or
> >> >fake
> >> >> > > > > tree sold here in the US is made in China; so if we don't buy new
> >> >> > > > > Christmas goodies, it now adversely affects some poor Chinese
> >> >person
> >> >> > > > > earning a big $100/month.  Sort of an unending circle.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > When society operated on a cash basis, people could only get what
> >> >> > > > > they could actually afford to pay for up front; most did without.
> >> >> > > > > Once we got a credit based society, everybody can get about
> >> >anything
> >> >> > > > > if they have plastic and people do...so we're always in debt (at
> >> >> > > > > least a lot are) while accumulating lots of 'stuff' that we really
> >> >> > > > > don't actually need, but providing thousands of jobs in hundreds
> >> >of
> >> >> > > > > related industries.  If everybody cut back to getting only what
> >> >they
> >> >> > > > > needed; millions would be out of work all over the world...
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > The reverse side of this coin is that all the greedy consumerism
> >> >> > > > > provides better paying jobs and higher standards of living to more
> >> >> > > > > people than ever before in the history of mankind.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > So, how do you strike a happy medium....keeping up people's
> >> >standard
> >> >> > > > > of living but eliminating the greed as SOP factor?  Can it be
> >> >done?
> >> >> > > > > I would hope that we - as a society - can at least put some curbs
> >> >on
> >> >> > > > > the current trends.  The scandals about salaries for the big
> >> >> > > > > corporation CEO's is a small start - if it doesn't just fizzle
> >> >out.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> >> >> > > > > mtalt@hort.net
> >> >> > > > > Editor:  Gardening in Shade
> >> >> > > > > -----------------------------------------------
> >> >> > > > > Current Article: Variegation on the Green Theme - Part One
> >> >> > > > > http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/shade_gardening
> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------
> >> >> > > > > Complete Index of Articles by Category and Date
> >> >> > > > > http://mtalt.hort.net/article-index.html
> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------
> >> >> > > > > All Suite101.com garden topics :
> >> >> > > > > http://www.suite101.com/topics.cfm/635
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > ----------
> >> >> > > > > > From: Pamela J. Evans <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > Bonnie & Marge, I've been turning that soapbox over for years.
> >> >> > > > > Don't
> >> >> > > > > > understand greed, never have, but it is evil and is undermining
> >> >> > > > > every
> >> >> > > > > > society it touches. Priorities these days are severely messed
> >> >up.
> >> >> > > > > The
> >> >> > > > > > sooner ALL get hip to that, the better off we'll be. But try to
> >> >> > > > > preach
> >> >> > > > > > that sermon and people look at you like you have two heads or
> >> >> > > > > sprouted
> >> >> > > > > > horns or something. My cousin and her husband just returned from
> >> >> > > > > Russia
> >> >> > > > > > where they were picking up their newly adopted kids and she told
> >> >> >me
> >> >> > > > > most
> >> >> > > > > > Americans would be appalled at the conditions these people live
> >> >> >in.
> >> >> > > > > Even
> >> >> > > > > > as simply as I live, my little cottage/shack would look like a
> >> >> > > > > palace
> >> >> > > > > > over there. Wish more people could see that for themselves.
> >> >Might
> >> >> > > > > wake
> >> >> > > > > > them up a bit.
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > I can dream, can't I?
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >> >> > > > > > From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
> >> >> > > > > > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> >> > > > > > Date:  Sat, 8 Nov 2003 07:31:44 -0800
> >> >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > >In my mind I can point to the time "greed" became the mantra
> >> >for
> >> >> > > > > corporate
> >> >> > > > > > >America.  I was working in D.C. in a large law firm in the late
> >> >> > > > > 1970's.
> >> >> > > > > > >Ringer's book, "Looking Out For Number One" was on the best
> >> >> >seller
> >> >> > > > > list and
> >> >> > > > > > >required reading for managers of many large firms.  It seems to
> >> >> >me
> >> >> > > > > that
> >> >> > > > > > >from that point forward the emphasis was on self...what one
> >> >could
> >> >> > > > > acquire,
> >> >> > > > > > >how much one could spend on cars, houses, etc., buying the best
> >> >> > > > > and
> >> >> > > > > > >bragging on it.  Problems of those less fortunate didn't
> >> >concern
> >> >> > > > > those on
> >> >> > > > > > >this track unless they were directly involved.  The thought of
> >> >> > > > > giving back
> >> >> > > > > > >to the community whose structure and principles allowed great
> >> >> > > > > success was
> >> >> > > > > > >completely lost.
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > >Enough...my soapbox just turned over.
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > >Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > > > > >
> >> >>
> >> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> >> Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead?  Your old favorites are always
> >> >> playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free!
> >> >> http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio
> >> >>
> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
> >> >> message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT
> >> >>
> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
> >> >> message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT
> >> >
> >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
> >> >message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT
> >> >
> >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
> >> >message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Pam Evans
> >> Kemp TX/zone 8A
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> 
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
> >> message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
> >message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Pam Evans
> Kemp TX/zone 8A
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
> message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
message text UNSUBSCRIBE GARDENCHAT
Other Mailing lists | Author Index | Date Index | Subject Index | Thread Index