Re: tolerance of lack of same/ alone

Your girls are incredible - they're so far ahead of their peers!! And
gorgeous. Much like their mother. And they have compassion and insight
far beyond their tender years. I am fortunate. I have a mother who is so
strong and so intelligent despite the lack of formal education. She is
well-read and brought me up the same way. I was reading Homer at 9 and
Shakespeare at 10. And she has a will and backbone of steel. She raised
us (my brother and I) to be like that. Aren't we lucky??



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:48:28 -0600

>Now see?  That's why I garden.  I give to the earth, the earth gives back, 
>and you in turn give to others who probably would have NEVER bothered to 
>figure out that a luffa is a gourd and not something from the bottom of the 
>sea!  You  educated them, you got them excited about gardening and growing 
>things that are new to them and they will in turn, share with others.  That 
>is a wonderful thing Pam.  And those women are those type who put their 
>identity in a man and not themselves.  I tell my girls to marry somebody who 
>COMPLIMENTS their life, not compromises it.  Somebody who appreciates them 
>for who they really are...and if nobody does...then SO WHAT?  Others will.  
>But if they believe in themselves and glow from within....they will attract 
>somebody who will appreciate that.  I refuse to raise doormats.  Your mother 
>raised you to be strong....Amazon women and Valkyries were strong 
>women...and remember "Well behaved women rarely make history".  So there.
>
>Jesse Rene' Bell
>Claremore, OK
>Zone 6
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT]tolerance of lack of same/ alone
>>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:01:31 -0600
>>
>>Well thanks lady, I appreciate that. I just know I'll never understand
>>people if I live to be a hundred. And people wonder why I prefer the
>>company of animals and plants?? Figure it out Einstein. On a joyous
>>note, I took a bucket full of luffa gourds to work and people were
>>totally excited about making their own luffa sponges and snapping them
>>up!! It was awesome. I handed out drying and processing instructions and
>>everyone was acting like I'd discovered how to split the atom or
>>something. It was a very educational experience for these folks and some
>>are even bound and determined to grow gourds next year. That was very
>>cool indeed.
>>
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:52:07 -0500
>>
>> >Oh Pam, just remember what Jesse says. 'People are stupid!" It's hard to
>> >ignore remarks like that sometimes though. Especially when you are 
>>feeling
>> >icky already. WE don't think you're strange!
>> >A
>> >
>> >Andrea H
>> >Beaufort, SC
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:51 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [CHAT]tolerance of lack of same/ alone
>> >
>> >
>> >> One more example of this one mule town and I'll shut up. Our water was
>> >> off today (main break on the next street) so I couldn't water. I went
>> >> next door to saw hello to the older couple who run the snack bar at the
>> >> auction, who are dear people and have become friends. In the background
>> >> you could hear a couple old biddies. "whos' that" "oh my dear, don't 
>>you
>> >> know?" "no" "that's THAT woman who lives next door" "oh no, that one 
>>who
>> >> lives alone w/ that big cat and all those plants?" "oh yes, haven't you
>> >> heard about HER?"
>> >>
>> >> Like I have leprosy or something?? Ruth gave them a withering look, I
>> >> rolled my eyes and said good evening and left. Ugh. This my friends is
>> >> what I contend w/ every day. Water off a duck's back for the most part,
>> >> but I had an abominable headache and found it annoying tonight. What
>> >> fun.
>> >>
>> >> Like my neighbor Joanne says "get a life - get a garden".  A retired
>> >Special Ed teacher - she's fabulous!
>> >>
>> >> Happy Thanksgiving to all BTW...
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >> From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> >> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:23:38 -0600
>> >>
>> >> >Hey, I can relate.  Truly.  A housefull of teenagers is not for the 
>>faint
>> >of
>> >> >heart let me tell ya.
>> >> >
>> >> >Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >> >Claremore, OK
>> >> >Zone 6
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>From: kmrsy@comcast.net
>> >> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT]tolerance of lack of same/ alone
>> >> >>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:24:28 +0000
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Jesse,
>> >> >>reminds me of a story my mother told of how, when I was an infant, 
>>Pat
>> >> >>was ~20mos, and Sue was 5-6 yrs. Once every few wks she got a night 
>>out
>> >> >>all by her lonesome and went to a movie. That night it was pouring 
>>rain,
>> >> >>she couldn't get a cab, her umbrella broke in the wind, the heel came
>> >> >>off her shoe, she fell down a hill, and missed half the movie. She 
>>said
>> >> >>it was worth it to get that time alone.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Kitty
>> >> >> > OH man...I hear ya Gene.  Love my husband, love my kids...but I 
>>would
>> >> >>really
>> >> >> > like to be able to take a bath or go to the bathroom without 
>>somebody
>> >> >> > calling my name or walking in on me.  It gets old.  And no matter 
>>how
>> >> >>much I
>> >> >> > gripe...it seems to fall on deaf ears!!  I'm 41...hitting that 
>>time
>> >in
>> >> >>my
>> >> >> > life when some alone time is needed and very much required.  My
>> >family
>> >> >> > doesn't seem to understand that.  It's "honey, honey, honey and 
>>mom,
>> >> >>mom,
>> >> >> > mom".  Ughhh.  The youngest three children are all 15 years
>> >old...they
>> >> >>can
>> >> >> > fend for themselves for awhile.  And I have to ask my husband 
>>every
>> >now
>> >> >>and
>> >> >> > then "What did you do before you married me and you were a single
>> >> >> > father...try to remember...and do that again for me, huh?"  I
>> >remember
>> >> >>my
>> >> >> > mother going throught this very same thing...and thinking "geez, 
>>what
>> >a
>> >> >> > grouch!".  There were five kids in that household...and my father 
>>did
>> >> >> > NOTHING to help around there.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >> >> > Claremore, OK
>> >> >> > Zone 6
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >From: "Gene Bush" <genebush@otherside.com>
>> >> >> > >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >> > >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> >> > >Subject: Re: [CHAT]tolerance of lack of same/ alone
>> >> >> > >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:08:18 -0500
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >Hello Kitty,
>> >> >> > >     I found that the longer one lives alone the more difficult 
>>it
>> >is
>> >> >>to
>> >> >> > >form
>> >> >> > >a relationship where the two of you move in together, marry or 
>>what
>> >> >>ever
>> >> >> > >you
>> >> >> > >choose where you live together *all the time*. Whew!! The 
>>changes,
>> >the
>> >> >> > >adapting to taking another into consideration if you simply 
>>wanted
>> >to
>> >> >>go to
>> >> >> > >the bathroom by yourself. Been married for a bit now and still 
>>have
>> >> >>trouble
>> >> >> > >once in a while with two people in this house at the same time. 
>>Does
>> >> >>not
>> >> >> > >mean I care any less for who I am married to.... but... somehow 
>>it
>> >is
>> >> >>all
>> >> >> > >worth it at the end of the day.
>> >> >> > >     Gene E. Bush
>> >> >> > >Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
>> >> >> > >www.munchkinnursery.com
>> >> >> > >genebush@munchkinnursery.com
>> >> >> > >Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >----- Original Message ----- > Pam,
>> >> >> > >snip...
>> >> >> > > > Living alone is not unusual.  Lots of people do.  As long as 
>>it
>> >> >>works
>> >> >> > >for
>> >> >> > > > you and you have the network of friends you want and need
>> >(including
>> >> >> > >Sugar),
>> >> >> > > > there is no need to feel odd-man-out.  I've been alone since 
>>'89
>> >and
>> >> >> > >frankly
>> >> >> > > > these 14 years have been much better for me than the previous 
>>14.
>> >I
>> >> >> > >don't
>> >> >> > > > understand why anyone would give you a hard time for being 
>>single
>> >> >>and
>> >> >> > > > orientation is nobody's business.
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Kitty
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
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