Re: Armadillos/leprosy
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- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Armadillos/leprosy
- From: C* C* <c*@insightbb.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:22:15 -0600
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Have no idea. But I think Henry VIII did.
Cathy
On Friday, November 19, 2004, at 03:00 PM, "" <gardenqueen@academicplanet.com> wrote:
Didn't Al Capone die of tertiary syphilis?
Pam Evans Kemp, TX zone 8A ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Carpenter Sent: 11/19/2004 7:08:49 AM To: gardenchat@hort.net Subject: Re: [CHAT] Armadillos/leprosy
Actually, it was probably a label applied to a number of skin diseases and other dermatologic conditions: anything that would produce sores and/ or skin disfigurement that persisted. Aside from the initial (primary) lesion, and the diffuse rash of secondary syphilis, that disease doesn't really manifest dermatologically, though it was much more serious (i.e. deadly) in its first two stages some 500+ years ago (smallpox was called "small" because syphilis was considered the "great" pox). Speculation is that the causitive organism (Treponema pallidum) mutated back then to something with less severe initial symptoms, retaining its real whammy for the neurological effects of its third stage. Probably more than you want to know....but I love trivia. Cathy On Wednesday, November 17, 2004, at 04:22 PM, james singer wrote:
Syphilis comes to mind. What else?
On Wednesday, November 17, 2004, at 08:39 AM, Cathy Carpenter wrote:
And most of what was described in the Bible as leprosy was probably something else. Cathy On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, at 11:08 PM, Judy L Browning wrote:
Leprosy is now called Hanson's disease in research, etc. There is
treatment
to clear the bacteria from the body. I heard an interesting
reference to it
a few days ago. Seems the rotting flesh, loss of body parts etc.
associated
with the disease is not directly caused by the bacteria. Loss of pain
sensation from nerve damage is the real culprit. Without pain to let
the
person know they have a cut or even a broken bone, the damaged area
easily
becomes infected and that secondary infection is the cause of the
terrible
disfiguring that caused such horror of the disease.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Armadillos/leprosy
itThanks for that clarification Cathy but it leads me to another question about leprosy. We know of the leper colonies of Hawaii...I think it was Molokai...but we never hear of the disease anymore at least I don't. Isnow treatable and why don't we hear of it?to
DF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com> To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] Armadillos
Just had to set the record straight on armadillos and leprosy. Yes,
armadillos, because of their low body temperature, have been used
to
culture Mycobacterium leprae (Leprosy is caused by a bacterium,
relatedbacteriumthe bacteria that causes tuberculosis, not a virus). Because thelivedhas not been able to be grown in artificial culture, the sole source of the germ for study has been the nine banded armadillo (and mice). Yes there has been a lot of "buzz" on the possible transmission of the bacterium from the armadillo to humans, but to my knowledge, the only documented transmission has been related to oral consumption of undercooked armadillo meat. Leprosy, despite its horrendous biblical reputation (most of which was not related to the disease), is very difficult to contract. There is documented evidence that people haveandfor years in close proximity (ie. marriage) to people with the diseaseashave never "caught" it. The lowly nine banded armadillo should be recipient of our gratitude rather than our prejudice...at least as farhealth research is concerned. Cathy On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, at 09:35 AM, Jesse Bell wrote:
I truly do not like armadillos. Did you know they carry the leprosy virus? And they do jump...and squeak...and they don't see well at night (that's why you see so many dead ones on the road). When I chased one with a broom (in New Orleans) and yelled at it...it jumped up and came running after me. I screamed and ran. Ick. Hate 'em. The short one is braver than me..that's for sure.
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