Re: Fire/compost

I've occasionally come across bales of straw put out for trash collection.
It is usually in early November.  They've used them for Halloween for mazes
or to sit on.  I only found one this year.  But the farmer right behind my
addition has them for $3, so I can get them from him whenever i need.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "pdickson" <pdickson@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fire/compost


> We can't get away with burning trash out here in western Ok.  The last few
> weeks we have been under a fire warning with the dry  wind blowing so
much.
> Almost every day you hear of someone that threw a cigarette out the window
> and burned off half the country.
>
> My husband just called and left me a message that he had pulled 2 bales of
> hay out of the community trash can this morning!
>
>   I saw pumpkins on the top of the trash over the weekend and wanted to
stop
> to get them.  I love to put hay on my vegetable garden and I would throw
the
> pumpkins behind the fence to see if next year I lucked out with volunteer
> pumpkins.  It has worked several times but not always.  I think even if it
> doesn't grow at least it can compost or feed some animal.
> Tricia
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fire
>
>
> > People here just love to burn things, Pam.  THey love the smell of
carbon
> > in
> > the air for some reason.  I don't.  I know that not everyone wants to
> > compost, but we do have services in place to remove this stuff for you.
> > Right on my street I saw someone set fire to grass he had in a wheel
> > barrow.
> > I explained that it is against the law (city codes).  There's a
> > landscaping
> > contractor behind his house that burns big piles of debris on their
fenced
> > off acre.  The wind then blows it into our addition and the smoke fills
my
> > house if I have windows open.  Last time I saw the smoke rising over
there
> > ,
> > I stopped by to tell them they had to put it out.  There was no one
> > around -
> > not in the house, the shop, the garage, anywhere.  So I called the Fire
> > Dept.  They took care of it.
> >
> > Kitty
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 7:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fire
> >
> >
> >> What a moron! And hasn't this rube ever heard of composting? Ugh. What
a
> >> waste, all the way around. Like our pal Jesse says ...People are
Stupid.
> >>
> >> On 11/19/05, james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, I agree. In two or three generations, it would put an end to a
> >> > lot of stupid actions, not to mention a lot of recurring WT
stupidity.
> >> >
> >> > On Nov 19, 2005, at 3:35 PM, Zemuly Sanders wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > That wasn't actually my intent, but now that you mentioned it...
> >> > > zem
> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer"
> >> > > <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> >> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> > > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:51 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fire
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> So, you're suggesting he should be charged AND fixed?
> >> > >> On Nov 19, 2005, at 11:44 AM, Zemuly Sanders wrote:
> >> > >>> I certainly hope that home owner gets charged back for the cost.
> >> > >>> That's another example of the fact that stupid people shouldn't
> >> > >>> breed. IMO.
> >> > >>> zem
> >> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <kmrsy@netzero.net>
> >> > >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> > >>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:07 AM
> >> > >>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Fire
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> Fire officials say embers from a pile of burning leaves were
> >> > >>>> picked
> >> > >>>> up
> >> > >>>> by strong winds and started a fire about 200 yards away in the
> >> > >>>> Pokagon
> >> > >>>> State Park. The embers originated at a home on Lake James, where
> > the
> >> > >>>> owner was burning leaves yesterday afternoon as wind speeds
> >> > >>>> reached
> >> > >>>> 40
> >> > >>>> miles per hour. Ten to 15 acres of the park burned and
> >> > >>>> firefighters
> >> > >>>> had
> >> > >>>> to cut down about three dozen trees. A Fire Department spokesman
> >> > >>>> says
> >> > >>>> fighting the fire was dangerous due to the winds and hills in
the
> >> > >>>> park.
> >> > >>>> There were no injuries. 66 firefighters and 17 pieces of
equipment
> >> > >>>> were
> >> > >>>> called in the fight the fire at the park about 40 miles north of
> >> > >>>> Fort
> >> > >>>> Wayne.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I know, 15 acres is nothing compared to 4000 acres in
California.
> >> > >>>> But
> >> > >>>> still, what is wrong with people? Yes, the costs have to do with
> > the
> >> > >>>> labor of putting it out and cleaning it up. A lot of 100 yr old
> >> > >>>> trees
> >> > >>>> also sustained damage. I can't locate the newspaper article, but
> >> > >>>> at
> >> > >>>> that
> >> > >>>> point in time they had not decided whether to charge the
homeowner
> >> > >>>> that
> >> > >>>> started it. I sure hope they do.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Kitty
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> -- "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> > >>>> Although I am not personally familiar with that park.. most of
> >> > >>>> Indiana's are
> >> > >>>> native plant designed.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> The tree loss will be the problem, as erosion efforts will have
to
> >> > >>>> be
> >> > >>>> addressed first.... but at this time of the year, providing it
> >> > >>>> stays cold,
> >> > >>>> the root systems of those effected should hold it back till
> >> > >>>> spring.
> >> > >>>> But if
> >> > >>>> someone in charge decides to wait till spring to do anything-
you
> >> > >>>> are in for
> >> > >>>> a real mess! Hum- is it flat land or hilly there?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> The native plants will all return... actually next spring might
be
> >> > >>>> a good
> >> > >>>> year to see some of those previously hidden.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> The cost I am sure, was for the manpower to put it out! It's a
> > rough
> >> > >>>> decision on how to contain it with wild winds. Glad they got it
> >> > >>>> under
> >> > >>>> control before the entire park went....
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Are they billing the homeowner that started it?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Donna
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> >> > >>>>> [o*@hort.net]
> >> > >>>>> On
> >> > >>>>> Behalf Of Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> >> > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:33 AM
> >> > >>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fire
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Looked pretty bad on the news last night.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Locally, we had a bad fire at Pokagon State Park. It seems that
> >> > >>>>> people in
> >> > >>>>> this state just LOVE to burn leaves. Some idiot whose property
> >> > >>>>> borders
> >> > >>>>> the
> >> > >>>>> park burned his leaves during a lull in tornado-speed winds. He
> >> > >>>>> thought
> >> > >>>>> the fire was burned out well-enough to walk away, but the winds
> >> > >>>>> picked up
> >> > >>>>> and blew the embers into the park. They said it's the worst,
the
> >> > >>>>> largest
> >> > >>>>> unplanned burn they've ever had at the park. and very costly.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Kitty
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>>>> From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 6:29 PM
> >> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fire
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> > Oh dear, doesn't sound like he's had any more rain than we
> >> > >>>>> > have.
> >> > >>>>> > Keep us posted Jim!
> >> > >>>>> >
> >> > >>>>> > On 11/18/05, james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> > >>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>> > > Just heard from my brother, who lives in Oak View,
> >> > >>>>> > > California.
> >> > >>>>> Oak
> >> > >>>>> View
> >> > >>>>> > > is on route 33 between Ojai and Ventura. That raging brush
> >> > >>>>> fire is
> >> > >>>>> > > about 5 miles south of his house and, he says, moving away
> >> > >>>>> from him. > > I
> >> > >>>>> > > told him not to worry about his house--just be sure to
> >> > >>>>> > > protect
> >> > >>>>> his
> >> > >>>>> > > avocado trees [he has five] :).
> >> > >>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>> > > Island Jim
> >> > >>>>> > > Southwest Florida
> >> > >>>>> > > 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> >> > >>>>> > > Hardiness Zone 10
> >> > >>>>> > > Heat Zone 10
> >> > >>>>> > > Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >> > >>>>> > > Maximum 100 F [38 C]
> >> > >>>>> > >
> >> > >>>>> > >
> >> >
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> >> > >>>>> > Kemp TX
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> >> Kemp TX
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