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RE: Early germination, what to do?


Interesting that they are hardy here. Is this test area in a sheltered area?
Or some microclimate environment? Have you gone over there to see if there
are seedlings around the original plantings currently? Any chance you could
talk to someone from there and inquire if the seedlings do appear yearly now
and do make it the following spring...
Since it appears that most info on this is wrong- from germination to
hardiness- I would keep a detailed journal of your experiences for future

Why not put some outside, just plunged, some in a protected environment
outdoors (cold frame if you will), and some in the garage and house. Would
be interesting to see the results. Personally, think they will make it right
now outside or they will have to be indoors for the winter. Doubt they can
start growing and get enough hardiness to them to put outdoors for the
winter once the frigid weather begins....the root system will not be
developed enough to take it here in zone 5. But I have been wrong before!

I never seen one of these trees up here, but do remember them in the smoky
mountains...maybe...could be confused.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of Christopher P. Lindsey
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 3:08 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Early germination, what to do?
> > I don't think you have enough time for them this year
> > to ever be hardy enough to be outdoors. You are going
> > to have to get them indoors with a lot of light and
> > let them grow all winter. I would also mock nature a
> > few times down the road and turn a fan on them so they
> > get used to being windblown for a stronger stucture.
> The problem with overwintering them indoors is that some species will
> stop their growth for the remaining season once they realize and the
> daylight length isn't right.  So then you have to provide artificial
> lighting to rival the real thing all winter long.
> My main concern is getting these guys lignified so that they can
> tolerate cold to provide some dormancy.
> > Where were you planning on overwintering them next
> > year at? That is listed as a zone 6 tree. (or am I
> > thinking of the wrong one again)
> I don't know if you'd be familiar with this tree as it's fairly uncommon
> in these parts, although I think it makes a great shade or specimen tree.
> It's kind of open, but in a graceful way.  And its fast growth rate makes
> it a much better choice than some of the other plants that people select
> for instant gratification.
> It's definitely hardy here.  These seeds were collected from the USDA
> trial plots at the U of I campus from two trees planted in 1981 and 1989.
> Chris
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