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Re: Rather sad
  • Subject: Re: Rather sad
  • From: Aplfgcnys@aol.com
  • Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 17:25:36 EDT

I've known a few like that, Zem, but not in my club.  We're a very
small club of hard workers, and accomplish much.  I do think that
the people who are sufficiently motivated to take on jobs at the
District and State level, are unlikely to fall in that category. Most
of those people are very committed and work extremely hard.
In a message dated 9/19/2010 4:35:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
zemuly@comcast.net writes:

Auralie, I think the fortunate ones are those who have been able to learn 
from you.  You are not only knowledgable, you are also generous in sharing 
your knowledge.  I dropped out of our local garden club because they didn't 
want to "dig."  In fact, they offered to send their yardmen to work on 
projects!  I clearly don't have a lot in common with them. <LOL>  The plant 
societies, however, are another matter.  They are made up of a lot of 
fun people.  I love my master gardener group, too, because many of us are 
from rural areas and approach gardening from a shared perspective.  I do 
agree with you that those people with the most problems are those who have 
control issues.
zone 7
West TN
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Aplfgcnys@aol.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Rather sad

>I really feel the need to comment here.  I have just returned from the
> New York State Federated Garden Clubs' Fall Conference - their big
> annual meeting. We have attended this meeting every year since 1987.
> (Chet is a garden-clubber, too, and served for eight years on the State
> Board.) On the way home, we were remembering some who are no
> longer with us, and told each other how very fortunate we have been to
> have had the association with these great people for so many years.
> Of course, like every group in the world, there are the few rotten apples,
> but they don't usually last very long.  But as for being "snooty," I can't
> imagine a less "snooty" bunch.  In my role as Chm. of the Horticulture
> Schools program, I have had the good fortune to work with people all
> across the state who are really dedicated to learning about growing
> and showing.  In my 22 years in this job, only once have I encountered
> a problem, and that was a person who was more concerned with control
> than anything else.  I am just very thankful for all the many friends I 
> have
> made over the years because of our shared interests in garden club
> activities.
> Auralie
> In a message dated 9/19/2010 12:50:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> kmrsy@comcast.net writes:
> Noreen,
> This speaks volumes about relying on second hand information.  The best
> thing to do is find out for yourself.
> There are "snooties" everywhere and there are "overly sensetives"
> everywhere
> as well.  But I doubt that any one entire group is made up of just one 
> kind
> of person.  If you're interested in something, go for it.  Encounter
> snooties?  Just find your nitch.  If it doesn't work out; well, try
> something else.
> I really like the idea of a probationary period.  It really gives people a
> chance to increase their knowledge and then puts them on a more even
> footing
> with the rest of the group.
> I've only been gardening since about 1990 and I almost exclusively went
> with
> mailorder from the start though I did eventually branch out to local
> nurseries a bit.  I've run into my share of snooties but I've also run 
> into
> some  "overly sensetives"  and even a few "ditzes".  Heck, I expect, in
> various peoples opinions, I fall into all three categories from time to
> time.  But for the most part I've encountered people who just enjoy
> gardening in one form or another and posess varying degrees of knowledge
> and
> generosity.  All bring something to the table.  There are a few that I
> avoid, as experience has shown that I have a better time  with the nicer
> ones.
> Kitty
> neIN, Zone 5
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <TeichFauna@aol.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Rather sad
>> Sorry, I'm coming in on this a bit late.....
>> I totally agree.  Here in Houston there are many different plant
>> societies.  For years I heard about the snooty reputation, some more than
>> others.  I
>> attended the shows to see the various plants that I had only  seen in
>> books, make a wish list and buy the plants at the sales, since  back then
>> there
>> was no internet, so you had to purchase  locally.  Garden club or society
>> plant sales were and still are for  the most part, the best place to
>> purchase
>> the more unusual and hard to find  plants (at a cheaper price than 
>> online)
>> that actually do well in the area...and  get first hand info from
>> experienced
>> growers.   I was pleasantly  surprised to see that the people were not
>> snooty at all.  I found them to  be very eager to share their passion and
>> knowledge.  I joined those groups  that I had the most interest in that
>> particular
>> plant group.  I avoided  even trying to join the orchid society because I
>> had heard they were the  worst.  I have now been a member for 3 years and
>> was
>> upset that I hadn't  joined sooner.
>> Times have changed, membership to a society is no  longer considered as
>> prestigious as it once was 25+ years ago.  From  what I was told, there
>> were
>> waiting lists to join the various plant societies,  and one had to have a
>> recommendation to join.  Plants were much harder to  obtain and therefore
>> cost
>> much more, so membership was pretty limitted to those  that could afford
>> the
>> plants to begin with.   But all this has  changed, and those members that
>> tried to maintain these standards  are no longer around.   Nowadays, I
>> find
>> that the society members are  just extremely generous and passionate 
>> about
>> their plants, and eager to pass on  excess plants and information to
>> anyone
>> that shows a legitimate interest in  learning......not just obtaining 
>> free
>> plants.   They are especially  accepting of members that participate as
>> well.
>> Unfortunately there are  those that are just out for what they can get.
>> Some
>> societies have a  newcomers group  (I laughingly call it a probationary
>> period) that is  required before becoming a member.......but in actuality
>> this
>> is the best  thing.  Newbies learn the basics by going to members houses
>> once a  month to learn about certain genera, growing methods, etc. and
>> given
>> starter plants to try.  By the time the two year period is up, they have 
>> a
>> pretty good collection and knowledge about the plant group and know if
>> they
>> want  to join or not.  Many drop out after a couple months finding out
>> that
>> they  aren't as into the particular plant as they thought........... but
>> many
>> stay and  become active productive members.  These groups are social as
>> well  as educational, and highly rewarding, but mostly to those that
> show
>> an
>> interest or share their passion.
>> Noreen
>> zone 9
>> Texas Gulf Coast
>> In a message dated 7/29/2010 9:25:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> Aplfgcnys@aol.com writes:
>> You  should at least look at their shows.  I admit some clubs are
>> "snooty,"  though less and less these days, but Federated clubs,
>> as opposed to Garden  of America clubs, are real meritocracies.
>> You are appreciated for the work  you do, and status is gained
>> by achievement. Aside from that, I just feel  that the pleasure you
>> would get from a well-organized show is something you  should
>> experience.  I admit I'm a bit nuts, but a flower show is a  special
>> event.  Everyone involved is trying to make the best effort  possible.
>> You demonstrate what you have accomplished both  artistically
>> by flower arrangements, and horticulturally by exhibiting the  very
>> best specimens you can grow.  It's a real ego trip, I know,  but
>> I really think you would enjoy a good flower  show.

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