Re: More scraping or what is THIS?

**"* P* L* <t*@spamfodder.com>**

> Having registered with Google Alerts to let me know when  
> bloomingwriter pops up, I came across this weird site called  
> bubbleposts.cn. Because our Internet is slower than cold molasses  
> tonight, I didn't search through the site too far, but did find one of  
> my posts 'authored' by some arse named Beau Holmes, though just the  
> first sentence or two; the rest linked directly back to my blog. I  
> can't figure out how to get all that nice information that Christopher  
> got for our other pirate: I did go to whois but didn't get all the  
> information about the ISP, etc.
> 
> Anyone know anything about this sort of site? I already filed a  
> complaint with blogger over a weird spam blog, and one that mangles  
> another writers work, but this isn't through Blogger so I'm not sure  
> where to go next with it.

Hi Jodi,

   I hate to say it, but I don't think that this is necessarily a 
   copyright infringment.  

   It looks like they're taking the blurbs from your RSS feeds, putting
   them on a Web page, and then linking back to your site.

   That's the nature of RSS -- it stands for 'really simple syndication'.
   It's a gray area legaly, but technologically speaking I don't think 
   that acting as an RSS aggregator violates the original spirit of 
   RSS.  

   These articles discuss things with more lucidty than I can muster 
   at 3am.  :)

      http://www.feedforall.com/rss-copyright-debate.htm
      http://www.rss4lib.com/2007/09/of_the_many_interesting_cans.html
      http://www.webpronews.com/insiderreports/2006/11/03/does-rss-imply-permission-to-reuse-content

   Since the feed isn't custom written and is nothing more than the first
   few lines from the original doument, it feels like fair use to me.
   And copyright is usually about lost revenue which I don't see here
   since they're only publishing the RSS portion (which is ad-free in
   your case) AND they're linking back to your site.

   I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with me, but to me this is an
   extension of what RSS feeds were intended for.  

   Anyhow, if you disagree and want to contact them, their ISP is

      OrgName:    Colo4Dallas LP 
      OrgID:      COLO4
      Address:    3000 Irving Blvd
      City:       Dallas
      StateProv:  TX
      PostalCode: 75247
      Country:    US

      NetRange:   207.210.192.0 - 207.210.255.255 
      CIDR:       207.210.192.0/18 
      NetName:    COLO4-BLK4
      NetHandle:  NET-207-210-192-0-1
      Parent:     NET-207-0-0-0-0
      NetType:    Direct Allocation
      NameServer: NS1.COLO4DALLAS.NET
      NameServer: NS2.COLO4DALLAS.NET
      Comment:    
      RegDate:    2005-04-25
      Updated:    2005-09-23

      OrgAbuseHandle: CAM9-ARIN
      OrgAbuseName:   Colo4Dallas Abuse Manager 
      OrgAbusePhone:  +1-214-630-3100
      OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@colo4dallas.com

      OrgNOCHandle: NOC1718-ARIN
      OrgNOCName:   NOC 
      OrgNOCPhone:  +1-214-630-3100
      OrgNOCEmail:  support@colo4dallas.com

      OrgTechHandle: CAR47-ARIN
      OrgTechName:   Colo4Dallas ARIN Requests 
      OrgTechPhone:  +1-214-630-3100
      OrgTechEmail:  arin@colo4dallas.com

   I would try contacting bill@feelmykok.com (the registered admin
   for the site) and abuase@bubbleposts.cn first though, and only 
   followup with the ISP if that doesn't work.

Chris

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