Re: GWL quotes and rants

**P* R* <p*@yahoo.com>**

I would not give a sample that I received to trial to
a friend because I accepted the plant from the nursery
on the condition that I would actually trial it. And I
do, I write down notes all year long. I have extensive
documentation on all of my plants. But if the plant is
doing well, and I am going to trim it anyway, I
thought it would be nice to share a cutting with a
friend, not the whole plant. Of course, I would tell
the friend the name of the plant.

--- Nancy Szerlag <szerlag@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Propagating patented plants for resale is illegal
> under any  
> circumsatances. But sharing cuttings and seeds is a
> time honored ritual among gardeners. I have toured
> gardens and green  
> houses with many of
> the  "big guys"  and trust me - a clip here, a clip
> there - seeds  
> happen to fall in
> the palm or the camera bag. It happens.
> What's the difference if you give the sample to a
> friend or give a  
> cutting?
> Nancy Szerlag
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 12, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Peggy Riccio wrote:
> 
> > I consider myself a communicator and sometimes I
> > communicate what is new in the industry to the
> > gardener. I myself appreciate learning about new
> > plants and new tools from other garden writers. I
> am
> > simply communicating what I have heard or tried to
> > those who would be interested to assist them in
> their
> > pursuit of gardening. I like the idea of showing
> and
> > telling about new tools.
> >
> > But I am writing this because you brought up an
> > interesting point at the end. When you do receive
> free
> > plants and tools from the wholesalers to try, it
> seems
> > to be ethically correct to donate them to non
> profits
> > if you don't use them. But what if you received a
> box
> > of trial plants from a wholesaler (sneak preview
> for
> > 2008), planted them, they did well, and you wanted
> to
> > take a cutting and give it to a friend?
> >
> > --- Nancy Szerlag <szerlag@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> For 14 years I've written a weekly gardening
> column
> >> published in both
> >> The Detroit News and The Detroit Free Press with
> a
> >> weekly state wide
> >> circulation around half a million, give or take,
> >> depending which
> >> Detroit team is playing in the play offs,
> >> semi-finals or finals.
> >>  From the onset I  made new tools and products my
> >> speciality and my
> >> readers love it.  I make it a point to test drive
> >> the toys so I know
> >> they work. I spend a good percentage of my income
> >> from that column
> >> traveling to trade shows, garden shows and Garden
> >> Writers in search
> >> of new stuff.  In the 14 years I have had one
> >> complaint about tools
> >> and few whines about plants.
> >>
> >> A couple of years ago I was invited to the Hardy
> >> Plant Society for a
> >> tool talk - a combination show and tell using the
> >> actual tools and
> >> power point, and received rave reviews.
> >>
> >> Many newspapers have strict rules about taking
> >> freebees, and in the
> >> old days writers were given a budget to travel, 
> buy
> >> new products and
> >> assistants to ship back test products. But those
> >> days are long gone
> >> folks.
> >>
> >> I don't sell unwanted products, plants or books
> at
> >> garages sales,
> >> flea markets or on e-bay,  I donate them to
> Master
> >> Gardener groups
> >> and libraries or give them to friends to use and
> >> grow for feedback.
> >> If I am a product pimp, so be it, I consider it
> part
> >> of the job.
> >>
> >> Nancy Szerlag
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Cottage Garden
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey all, I lurk and rarely post but this time I
> >> need to speak up.
> >>> In this day and age it is unreasonably to think
> >> your posts to an
> >>> open list are "private" -- five or ten years ago
> >> one might have
> >>> thought so (and still been mistaken) but in
> >> today's environment
> >>> that is just naive, to use Susan's expression.
> >>>
> >>>   I am sorry I missed the original rant intact
> >> with quotes. Maybe
> >>> that would explain why folks are upset about it.
> >>>
> >>>   Anyhoo, let me add that in re the PANTS show
> >> hype:
> >>>
> >>>   As much as I personally detest the "what's hot
> >> -- what's not" go  
> >>> go sales mentality when it affects garden
> writing,
> >> in all fairness
> >>> that particular talk in your rant is being done
> at
> >> the PANTS show
> >>> -- where folks actually go specifically to catch
> >> up on what's new.
> >>> I feel writers should be and need to be well
> >> informed, but what
> >>> they do with that information is up to them.
> >> Whether or not knowing
> >>> what's new turns them into "product pimps" is
> >> another issue.
> >>>
> >>>   Ok, I'm done. :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Barbara Martin
> >>>   FLOWER GARDENS
> >>> http://flowergardens.suite101.com/
> >>> Member, Garden Writers Association
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> Nancy Szerlag
> >> Columnist for Detroit News
> >> szerlag@earthlink.net
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> >>
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