Re: GWL quotes and rants

**N* S* <s*@earthlink.net>**

Many plants are sent to me without prior notice. Often the companies  
request
  that should the recipient not have room in the garden or time to  
plant it
please pass it on.
On Jun 13, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Peggy Riccio wrote:

> I would not give a sample that I received to trial to
> a friend because I accepted the plant from the nursery
> on the condition that I would actually trial it. And I
> do, I write down notes all year long. I have extensive
> documentation on all of my plants. But if the plant is
> doing well, and I am going to trim it anyway, I
> thought it would be nice to share a cutting with a
> friend, not the whole plant. Of course, I would tell
> the friend the name of the plant.
>
> --- Nancy Szerlag <szerlag@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Propagating patented plants for resale is illegal
>> under any
>> circumsatances. But sharing cuttings and seeds is a
>> time honored ritual among gardeners. I have toured
>> gardens and green
>> houses with many of
>> the  "big guys"  and trust me - a clip here, a clip
>> there - seeds
>> happen to fall in
>> the palm or the camera bag. It happens.
>> What's the difference if you give the sample to a
>> friend or give a
>> cutting?
>> Nancy Szerlag
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Peggy Riccio wrote:
>>
>>> I consider myself a communicator and sometimes I
>>> communicate what is new in the industry to the
>>> gardener. I myself appreciate learning about new
>>> plants and new tools from other garden writers. I
>> am
>>> simply communicating what I have heard or tried to
>>> those who would be interested to assist them in
>> their
>>> pursuit of gardening. I like the idea of showing
>> and
>>> telling about new tools.
>>>
>>> But I am writing this because you brought up an
>>> interesting point at the end. When you do receive
>> free
>>> plants and tools from the wholesalers to try, it
>> seems
>>> to be ethically correct to donate them to non
>> profits
>>> if you don't use them. But what if you received a
>> box
>>> of trial plants from a wholesaler (sneak preview
>> for
>>> 2008), planted them, they did well, and you wanted
>> to
>>> take a cutting and give it to a friend?
>>>
>>> --- Nancy Szerlag <szerlag@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For 14 years I've written a weekly gardening
>> column
>>>> published in both
>>>> The Detroit News and The Detroit Free Press with
>> a
>>>> weekly state wide
>>>> circulation around half a million, give or take,
>>>> depending which
>>>> Detroit team is playing in the play offs,
>>>> semi-finals or finals.
>>>>  From the onset I  made new tools and products my
>>>> speciality and my
>>>> readers love it.  I make it a point to test drive
>>>> the toys so I know
>>>> they work. I spend a good percentage of my income
>>>> from that column
>>>> traveling to trade shows, garden shows and Garden
>>>> Writers in search
>>>> of new stuff.  In the 14 years I have had one
>>>> complaint about tools
>>>> and few whines about plants.
>>>>
>>>> A couple of years ago I was invited to the Hardy
>>>> Plant Society for a
>>>> tool talk - a combination show and tell using the
>>>> actual tools and
>>>> power point, and received rave reviews.
>>>>
>>>> Many newspapers have strict rules about taking
>>>> freebees, and in the
>>>> old days writers were given a budget to travel,
>> buy
>>>> new products and
>>>> assistants to ship back test products. But those
>>>> days are long gone
>>>> folks.
>>>>
>>>> I don't sell unwanted products, plants or books
>> at
>>>> garages sales,
>>>> flea markets or on e-bay,  I donate them to
>> Master
>>>> Gardener groups
>>>> and libraries or give them to friends to use and
>>>> grow for feedback.
>>>> If I am a product pimp, so be it, I consider it
>> part
>>>> of the job.
>>>>
>>>> Nancy Szerlag
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Cottage Garden
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all, I lurk and rarely post but this time I
>>>> need to speak up.
>>>>> In this day and age it is unreasonably to think
>>>> your posts to an
>>>>> open list are "private" -- five or ten years ago
>>>> one might have
>>>>> thought so (and still been mistaken) but in
>>>> today's environment
>>>>> that is just naive, to use Susan's expression.
>>>>>
>>>>>   I am sorry I missed the original rant intact
>>>> with quotes. Maybe
>>>>> that would explain why folks are upset about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Anyhoo, let me add that in re the PANTS show
>>>> hype:
>>>>>
>>>>>   As much as I personally detest the "what's hot
>>>> -- what's not" go  
>>>>> go sales mentality when it affects garden
>> writing,
>>>> in all fairness
>>>>> that particular talk in your rant is being done
>> at
>>>> the PANTS show
>>>>> -- where folks actually go specifically to catch
>>>> up on what's new.
>>>>> I feel writers should be and need to be well
>>>> informed, but what
>>>>> they do with that information is up to them.
>>>> Whether or not knowing
>>>>> what's new turns them into "product pimps" is
>>>> another issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Ok, I'm done. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Barbara Martin
>>>>>   FLOWER GARDENS
>>>>> http://flowergardens.suite101.com/
>>>>> Member, Garden Writers Association
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Nancy Szerlag
>>>> Columnist for Detroit News
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>>>> Check blog at www.gardeneryardener.blogspot.com
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