Re: gardenwriters Digest, Vol 113, Issue 18

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Suzi's right about the cantaloupe. A couple of summers ago, I caught six
groundhogs (of various ages and sizes!) with a melon-baited Havahart
trap in my small suburban yard. Each time we baited it, and laid out a
little trail of cantaloupe rinds leading up to the door, it never took
more than 48 hours to catch the next one.

We didn't consult with our local authorities, but we did drive the
groundhogs deep into a 5,000 acre state park to release them -- thinking
that perhaps the red foxes would enjoy a snack....

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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:21:40 +0000
From: Susan McCoy <susan@gardenmediagroup.com>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control
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Hi Sally, I checked with our client Havahart, and they say you can catch
groundhogs in a trap. The best trap suited for a groundhog is #1079
(pro-style), or #1085 (Easy Set).  They also want to know what you are
using for bait.   Believe it or not, they recommend the best bait for a
groundhog is cantaloupe... and if it's been sitting out for days, the
better!  They suggest rubbing the juice on the trap, and on the ground
leading into the trap from the groundhog's burrow, and of course some
pieces inside the trap.  Of course trap positioning is key.  You need to
place it in an area that the groundhog is frequently seen.

You can learn more about groundhogs
here<http://www.havahart.com/advice/critter-library/groundhog-control>.

Let us know if this works.

Suzi McCoy

520 W. State Street
Kennett Square, PA 19348
Phone 610-444-3040
Cell 610-220-8400

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From: Sally Williams <gardenlit@gmail.com<g*@gmail.com>>
Date: June 15, 2012 5:25:11 PM EDT
To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum
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>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control
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>
Woodchucks are my nemesis. Their diets vary by the individual. Recently
the one under my front porch has broadened his/her already vast palate
to include ornamental alliums, bee balm and tomato plants which have not
been touched before, and remain untouched at another property.

They are too smart to be trapped in a have-a-hart and are not scared off
by dogs. Urine doesn't work because they just dig another entrance hole.
Smoke bombs work if you can find all the holes. The best remedy is a
roofed fence sunk two feet (I've seen them climb an 8 ft chain link
fence) or a bullet, neither under consideration at the moment. A coyote
got one last year, but you can't count on them as they don't come when
you whistle...

Sally

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Sandie Parrott
<rsbirdy@comcast.net<r*@comcast.net>> wrote:

I'll second the deer problem! I've lived in my zone 5 Michigan house for
24 years...they found me 3 years ago and oh wow do they love my hosta.
They discovered me because my neighbor next door is growing an
unprotected salad bar (aka vegetable garden) for their personal
enjoyment. When they get done with his...and they are still
hungry...they say "Wow...let's go see what delectable Hosta Sandie has
today."

I use several deterrents....nothing is a cure...they either eventually
find a way around it or the effect wears off.

1.      Scarecrow Motion Sensor sprinkler - pretty good, but must be
moved
frequently because the deer learn the pattern
2.      Human Hair - Tucked under plants where they can smell it and
might
bite it. Has to be replaced after several rains because the smell
decreases
3.      Chili pepper - sprinkled in containers and around garden
areas...again it has to be replaced periodically, but they don't like it
4.      Smelly or prickly plants - some very aromatic herbs especially
in
the onion family work pretty well and roses or barberry for prickly
plants.
Dead      rose canes stuck near the Hosta have a similar effect and they
hopefully poke them in the eye!

Sandie Parrott
Garden Writer/Blogger/Photographer
SandieParrott.com<http://SandieParrott.com>
Skparrott.wordpress.com<http://Skparrott.wordpress.com>

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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:40:41 -0700
From: "Tom" <tloallergyfree@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control
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Just curious....I may well have already missed this part of the
conversation....but, what do people do with these wild critters they
catch alive in these Havahart traps? I ask this because I've read of
people who use those traps to catch House Sparrows (English
sparrow)...who then drown all the sparrows they catch.
  To me this is just wrong...and it is so opposite of the sort of good
feeling I get from gardening. Anyhow, just curious about what folks are
doing with these animals they're catching.

Tom Ogren
San Luis Obispo
PS. I'm having a bit of my own pest problem right now with gophers....am
trying to run them out of my area using stinky road flares in the
burrows. 
What I don't want to do is to resort to gopher poison...especially since
a poisoned gopher can then be eaten by a hawk, an owl, a cat, a fox,
etc. and will of course, poison it too.

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From: "Susan McCoy" <susan@gardenmediagroup.com>
To: "'Sally Williams'" <gardenlit@gmail.com>; "Garden Writers -- GWL --
TheGarden Writers Forum" <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control

> Hi Sally, I checked with our client Havahart, and they say you can 
> catch groundhogs in a trap. The best trap suited for a groundhog is 
> #1079 (pro-style), or #1085 (Easy Set).  They also want to know what
you are
> using for bait.   Believe it or not, they recommend the best bait for
a 
> groundhog is cantaloupe... and if it's been sitting out for days, the 
> better!  They suggest rubbing the juice on the trap, and on the ground

> leading into the trap from the groundhog's burrow, and of course some 
> pieces inside the trap.  Of course trap positioning is key.  You need 
> to place it in an area that the groundhog is frequently seen.
>
> You can learn more about groundhogs
>
here<http://www.havahart.com/advice/critter-library/groundhog-control>.
>
> Let us know if this works.
>
> Suzi McCoy
>
> 520 W. State Street
> Kennett Square, PA 19348
> Phone 610-444-3040
> Cell 610-220-8400
>
> Website: 
> http://www.gardenmediagroup.com<http://www.gardenmediagroup.com/>
> Blog: http://gardenplot.blogspot.com<http://gardenplot.blogspot.com/>
> Twitter:  http://twitter.com/suzimccoygmg
> Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/suzi.mccoy
> LinkedIn:  http://www.linkedin.com/in/suziwatsonmccoy
>
> Your reputation is our mission.
>  Please consider the environment before printing this email
> From: Sally Williams <gardenlit@gmail.com<g*@gmail.com>>
> Date: June 15, 2012 5:25:11 PM EDT
> To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum 
> <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org<g*@lists.ibiblio.or
> g>>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control
> Reply-To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum 
> <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org<g*@lists.ibiblio.or
> g>> Woodchucks are my nemesis. Their diets vary by the individual. 
> Recently the one under my front porch has broadened his/her already 
> vast palate to include ornamental alliums, bee balm and tomato plants 
> which have not been touched before, and remain untouched at another 
> property.
>
> They are too smart to be trapped in a have-a-hart and are not scared 
> off by dogs. Urine doesn't work because they just dig another entrance

> hole.
> Smoke
> bombs work if you can find all the holes. The best remedy is a roofed 
> fence sunk two feet (I've seen them climb an 8 ft chain link fence) or

> a bullet, neither under consideration at the moment. A coyote got one 
> last year, but you can't count on them as they don't come when you 
> whistle...
>
> Sally
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Sandie Parrott 
> <rsbirdy@comcast.net<r*@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> I'll second the deer problem! I've lived in my zone 5 Michigan house 
> for
> 24 years...they found me 3 years ago and oh wow do they love my hosta.

> They
> discovered me because my neighbor next door is growing an unprotected 
> salad bar (aka vegetable garden) for their personal enjoyment. When 
> they get done with his...and they are still hungry...they say 
> "Wow...let's go see what delectable Hosta Sandie has today."
>
> I use several deterrents....nothing is a cure...they either eventually

> find a way around it or the effect wears off.
>
> 1.      Scarecrow Motion Sensor sprinkler - pretty good, but must be
moved
> frequently because the deer learn the pattern
> 2.      Human Hair - Tucked under plants where they can smell it and
might
> bite it. Has to be replaced after several rains because the smell 
> decreases
> 3.      Chili pepper - sprinkled in containers and around garden
> areas...again it has to be replaced periodically, but they don't like
it
> 4.      Smelly or prickly plants - some very aromatic herbs especially
in
> the onion family work pretty well and roses or barberry for prickly 
> plants.
> Dead      rose canes stuck near the Hosta have a similar effect and
they
> hopefully poke them in the eye!
>
> Sandie Parrott
> Garden Writer/Blogger/Photographer
> SandieParrott.com<http://SandieParrott.com>
> Skparrott.wordpress.com<http://Skparrott.wordpress.com>
>
>
>
>
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> PO Box 105
> Hiram ME 04041
> 207-625-4762
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:46:07 +0000
From: Susan McCoy <susan@gardenmediagroup.com>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control
To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum
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Havahart is on your side on this one, Tom.  They advocate humane animal
control and recommend that you contact the Humane Society, or the local
or state game commission to determine the lawful method of releasing a
captured wild or nuisance animal before setting the trap. Many species
are protected by law in various states and each state varies by region.

Suzi McCoy
?
520 W. State Street
Kennett Square, PA 19348
Phone 610-444-3040
Cell 610-220-8400 

Website: http://www.gardenmediagroup.com
Blog: http://gardenplot.blogspot.com 
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?
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? Please consider the environment before printing this email 

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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control

Just curious....I may well have already missed this part of the
conversation....but, what do people do with these wild critters they
catch alive in these Havahart traps? I ask this because I've read of
people who use those traps to catch House Sparrows (English
sparrow)...who then drown all the sparrows they catch.
  To me this is just wrong...and it is so opposite of the sort of good
feeling I get from gardening. Anyhow, just curious about what folks are
doing with these animals they're catching.

Tom Ogren
San Luis Obispo
PS. I'm having a bit of my own pest problem right now with gophers....am
trying to run them out of my area using stinky road flares in the
burrows. 
What I don't want to do is to resort to gopher poison...especially since
a poisoned gopher can then be eaten by a hawk, an owl, a cat, a fox,
etc. and will of course, poison it too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan McCoy" <susan@gardenmediagroup.com>
To: "'Sally Williams'" <gardenlit@gmail.com>; "Garden Writers -- GWL --
TheGarden Writers Forum" <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control

> Hi Sally, I checked with our client Havahart, and they say you can 
> catch groundhogs in a trap. The best trap suited for a groundhog is 
> #1079 (pro-style), or #1085 (Easy Set).  They also want to know what
you are
> using for bait.   Believe it or not, they recommend the best bait for
a 
> groundhog is cantaloupe... and if it's been sitting out for days, the 
> better!  They suggest rubbing the juice on the trap, and on the ground

> leading into the trap from the groundhog's burrow, and of course some 
> pieces inside the trap.  Of course trap positioning is key.  You need 
> to place it in an area that the groundhog is frequently seen.
>
> You can learn more about groundhogs
>
here<http://www.havahart.com/advice/critter-library/groundhog-control>.
>
> Let us know if this works.
>
> Suzi McCoy
>
> 520 W. State Street
> Kennett Square, PA 19348
> Phone 610-444-3040
> Cell 610-220-8400
>
> Website: 
> http://www.gardenmediagroup.com<http://www.gardenmediagroup.com/>
> Blog: http://gardenplot.blogspot.com<http://gardenplot.blogspot.com/>
> Twitter:  http://twitter.com/suzimccoygmg
> Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/suzi.mccoy
> LinkedIn:  http://www.linkedin.com/in/suziwatsonmccoy
>
> Your reputation is our mission.
>  Please consider the environment before printing this email
> From: Sally Williams <gardenlit@gmail.com<g*@gmail.com>>
> Date: June 15, 2012 5:25:11 PM EDT
> To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum 
> <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org<g*@lists.ibiblio.or
> g>>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control
> Reply-To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum 
> <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org<g*@lists.ibiblio.or
> g>> Woodchucks are my nemesis. Their diets vary by the individual. 
> Recently the one under my front porch has broadened his/her already 
> vast palate to include ornamental alliums, bee balm and tomato plants 
> which have not been touched before, and remain untouched at another 
> property.
>
> They are too smart to be trapped in a have-a-hart and are not scared 
> off by dogs. Urine doesn't work because they just dig another entrance

> hole.
> Smoke
> bombs work if you can find all the holes. The best remedy is a roofed 
> fence sunk two feet (I've seen them climb an 8 ft chain link fence) or

> a bullet, neither under consideration at the moment. A coyote got one 
> last year, but you can't count on them as they don't come when you 
> whistle...
>
> Sally
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Sandie Parrott 
> <rsbirdy@comcast.net<r*@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> I'll second the deer problem! I've lived in my zone 5 Michigan house 
> for
> 24 years...they found me 3 years ago and oh wow do they love my hosta.

> They
> discovered me because my neighbor next door is growing an unprotected 
> salad bar (aka vegetable garden) for their personal enjoyment. When 
> they get done with his...and they are still hungry...they say 
> "Wow...let's go see what delectable Hosta Sandie has today."
>
> I use several deterrents....nothing is a cure...they either eventually

> find a way around it or the effect wears off.
>
> 1.      Scarecrow Motion Sensor sprinkler - pretty good, but must be
moved
> frequently because the deer learn the pattern
> 2.      Human Hair - Tucked under plants where they can smell it and
might
> bite it. Has to be replaced after several rains because the smell 
> decreases
> 3.      Chili pepper - sprinkled in containers and around garden
> areas...again it has to be replaced periodically, but they don't like
it
> 4.      Smelly or prickly plants - some very aromatic herbs especially
in
> the onion family work pretty well and roses or barberry for prickly 
> plants.
> Dead      rose canes stuck near the Hosta have a similar effect and
they
> hopefully poke them in the eye!
>
> Sandie Parrott
> Garden Writer/Blogger/Photographer
> SandieParrott.com<http://SandieParrott.com>
> Skparrott.wordpress.com<http://Skparrott.wordpress.com>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> --
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> 207-625-4762
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