Re: gardenwriters Digest, Vol 113, Issue 23

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This sounds like something that should be written up for Pat Stone :) 

Pat Munts

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   1. Re: Groundhogs (CobraHead)
   2. Re: Groundhogs (Duane Campbell)
   3. Re: Groundhogs (Rose Marie McGee)
   4. Re: Groundhogs (Sandie Parrott)
   5. Re: Groundhogs (Duane Campbell)
   6. Re: Groundhogs (KTCopsey@aol.com)
   7. Re: Groundhogs (Sandie Parrott)
   8. Re: Garden pests and control (Daryl)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:10:47 -0500
From: CobraHead <info@cobrahead.com>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Groundhogs
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Tom said, "I'd trade you our rats for your cute groundhogs, anytime."

Not at all a fair trade as we already have Norway rats in the east and
Midwest, and brown rats, too.

A family of groundhogs can demolish a very large vegetable garden in an
evening.  There are few plants they don't like or will at least chew on.
The adults are more than five times bigger than adult rats.

You would not like groundhogs in your garden.  However, if you send me five
rats, I'll send you five groundhogs.  If my traps work (I've had good luck
using peanut butter and broccoli for bait), I should be able to get them
off to you in the the next day or two.

Noel

Noel Valdes
CobraHead LLC

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:29:21 -0400
From: "Duane Campbell" <dcamp911@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Groundhogs
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From: CobraHead  
Subject: Re: [GWL] Groundhogs 

>You would not like groundhogs in your garden.  However, if you send me five
>rats, I'll send you five groundhogs.  

Hell, Noel, I'll take the five rats and send just one groundhog. You showed
the good grace not to promote CobraHead in this post, but I will say that it
is very effective for throwing at woodchucks.

Though you showed good manners in not promoting your product, I am not
nearly so well behaved. Since it is right on point, I submit below a short
bit from the section of my book that deals with woodchucks and other
critters in the garden:

    I have a woodchuck. My neighbor has named him. Harry. Or maybe it's
Hairy.

    Now, I like animals. You can't walk through our house without tripping
over cats or rabbits or something my wife insists is a dog, but I think is
really some kind of marmot. I do not, however, like woodchucks in my garden.

    Here's what I did this spring. I set out the kohlrabi and cauliflower
and broccoli and put bottomless plastic jugs over all the transplants. I put
the Chinese cabbage and lettuce under plastic tunnels. I spread Reemay ?
floating row         cover ? over my onion seedlings and pegged it down
securely.

    Here's what Harry did. He knocked the jugs off and ate all the kohlrabi
and cauliflower and broccoli. He crawled under the plastic tunnels and ate
the lettuce and Chinese cabbage. Fortunately he doesn't like onions. But he
does     like Reemay. He pulled all the pegs and dragged an entire 4 X 8
foot sheet into his burrow. It must be comfy.

Duane Campbell
Syndicated garden columnist
Author: Best of Green Space; 30 Years of Composted Columns 

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:37:25 -0700
From: Rose Marie McGee <rmnicholsmcgee@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Groundhogs
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Regarding the Ground Hogs, years ago I was looking for a way to keep nutria
out of plots(they were a terrible problem) . I came across several sites
recommending a C fence, floppy on top, the fencing on the pegged down and
well extended so scratching a burrow was affected. We don't have ground hogs
but this did work quite successfully for the nutria problem. I can't imagine
being a melon grower with groundhogs in the vicinity!

Rose Marie Nichols McGee
On Jun 18, 2012, at 3:10 PM, CobraHead wrote:

> Tom said, "I'd trade you our rats for your cute groundhogs, anytime."
> 
> Not at all a fair trade as we already have Norway rats in the east and
> Midwest, and brown rats, too.
> 
> A family of groundhogs can demolish a very large vegetable garden in an
> evening.  There are few plants they don't like or will at least chew on.
> The adults are more than five times bigger than adult rats.
> 
> You would not like groundhogs in your garden.  However, if you send me
five
> rats, I'll send you five groundhogs.  If my traps work (I've had good luck
> using peanut butter and broccoli for bait), I should be able to get them
> off to you in the the next day or two.
> 
> Noel
> 
> Noel Valdes
> CobraHead LLC
> 
> info@cobrahead.com
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> www.facebook.com/CobraHead
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:41:30 -0400
From: "Sandie Parrott" <rsbirdy@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Groundhogs
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Now...you guys need raccoons...they kill ground hogs...of course they do
about as
much damage...but they are hilarious if you put marshmallows out for them to
eat...:)

(I have never seen my Lamium bloom...and I have TONS of it on a hillside.
The ground
hogs eat the apparently delectable flowers just before they open fully...)

Sandie Parrott
Writer/Blogger/Photographer

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Tom said, "I'd trade you our rats for your cute groundhogs, anytime."

Not at all a fair trade as we already have Norway rats in the east and
Midwest, and
brown rats, too.

A family of groundhogs can demolish a very large vegetable garden in an
evening.
There are few plants they don't like or will at least chew on.
The adults are more than five times bigger than adult rats.

You would not like groundhogs in your garden.  However, if you send me five
rats,
I'll send you five groundhogs.  If my traps work (I've had good luck using
peanut
butter and broccoli for bait), I should be able to get them off to you in
the the
next day or two.

Noel

Noel Valdes
CobraHead LLC

info@cobrahead.com
www.cobrahead.com
www.cobrahead.com/blog
www.facebook.com/CobraHead
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:47:51 -0400
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From: Sandie Parrott
Subject: Re: [GWL] Groundhogs

>Now...you guys need raccoons...they kill ground hogs...of course they do 
>about as
>much damage.

Raccoons used to visit my lily puddle trying to catch the fish and knocking 
over all the plants in the process. I solved the problem by going out a 
couple of mornings a week, looking around to make sure no one was watching, 
and applying a raccoon repellant around the edge of the pool.

D 

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:25:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: KTCopsey@aol.com
Subject: Re: [GWL] Groundhogs
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Please don't tell me that! I have had a groundhog - he left some footprints 
 but not enough to declare who he was - he ate the bean seeds, he has 
uproots  young carrots and this past week dug enormous holes in my raised
beds 
uprooting  potatoes and tomatoes along the way and burying still-growing 
lettuce. Today -  he actually sat there looking at me so that I could make a

positive id - in the  middle of the afternoon! I have spread Messina
deterrent 
and covered the new  bean seeds with netting (I brought a full bolt on sale 
for spring brides). I am  sincerely hoping that he finds somewhere else to 
get easy food because the next  round of defense is a fence - maybe with
barbs 
on it!

Kate  Copsey
Freelance garden writer
www.katecopsey.com
Host: America's Home  Grown Veggie Show
on: _www.americaswebradio.com_ (http://www.americaswebradio.com/)   

Blog: _www.katesgardenjournal.com_ (http://www.katesgardenjournal.com/) 
Connect  on Facebook: _Katecopsey_ 
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Twitter: _katycopsey  

In a message dated 6/18/2012 6:29:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
dcamp911@gmail.com writes:

Here's what I did this spring. I set out the  kohlrabi and cauliflower and 
broccoli and put bottomless plastic jugs over all  the transplants. I put 
the Chinese cabbage and lettuce under plastic tunnels.  I spread Reemay ? 
floating row         cover ? over  my onion seedlings and pegged it down 
securely.

Here's  what Harry did. He knocked the jugs off and ate all the kohlrabi 
and  cauliflower and broccoli. He crawled under the plastic tunnels and ate 
the  lettuce and Chinese cabbage. Fortunately he doesn't like onions. But he

does     like Reemay. He pulled all the pegs and dragged an  entire 4 X 8 
foot sheet into his burrow. It must be  comfy.

_ (https://twitter.com/#!/katycopsey)

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:37:02 -0400
From: "Sandie Parrott" <rsbirdy@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Groundhogs
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Hey...but I bet you didn't have any groundhogs...:)

Sandie Parrott

>Now...you guys need raccoons...they kill ground hogs...of course they 
>do about as much damage.

Raccoons used to visit my lily puddle trying to catch the fish and knocking
over all
the plants in the process. I solved the problem by going out a couple of
mornings a
week, looking around to make sure no one was watching, and applying a
raccoon
repellant around the edge of the pool.

D 

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:36:48 -0400
From: "Daryl" <dp2413@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Garden pests and control
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Doreen,

In my garden, hose chewers are almost always squirrels. Your mileage may 
vary.

Daryl Pulis
Manager, CompuServe/Netscape Gardening Forum
(The oldest gardening forum on the web)
http://community.netscape.com/gardening

Speaking of garden pests....  A critter has started crewing huge holes in my
garden hoses.  The holes are at least an inch long.  I bought expensive
hoses, because my veggie garden is almost 140 feet up a hill from the house.
I needed light weight hoses to drag that far.

What kind of critter would do this??  I live in the country so there are
plenty of suspects.
Doreen Howard

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