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Re: Pollenation, pollenization

At 09:06 AM 3/4/02 -0800, you wrote:
>Can someone please tell me the difference beween pollenation and 
>pollenization?
>
>Thanks
>
>Nan
Rats!  I just gave you misinformation.  Here's the correct difference (via 
http://pollinator.com): "Let's Get Our Terms Clear!
Any seedman or nursery that sells you a plant to pollinate, or calls a 
plant a pollinator is confused. BEES POLLINATE; PLANTS POLLENIZE. A plant 
cannot be a pollinator and a bee cannot be a pollenizer. These terms are as 
precise and different as uterus and ovary.
How much would you trust a gynecologist who used these terms 
interchangeably? Unfortunately, the understanding of pollination is just 
about that primitive, even with some folks who've worked with plants for a 
long time.
A pollinator is the agent that carries pollen, most often a bee, but it can 
be many other things, including humans that are hand pollinating. A 
pollenizer is a source plant for compatible pollen (a "daddy"), that 
normally blooms at the same time, although pollen is now artificially saved 
as well.
(Garden Glossary) (Glossary of Horticultural terms)
A good example is Johnny's Selected Seeds (not to pick on only one 
seedsman), which is offering a percentage of POLLINATORS with some of their 
cucumber seeds. I recently asked them, if they really meant that they were 
offering pollenizers (plants to provide pollen), and told them that the
primary pollinators for cucumbers were honeybees. They won't change the 
catalog, so I can only conclude they are offering bees to do the job. Their 
web catalog is at http://www.johnnyseeds.com/ The standard way to mail 
order honeybees is in three pound packages, shipped by US mail. This is a 
very generous offer indeed. Ask them if they really
mean this!
Another example can be seen in this non-sequitur from a nursery:
"Most Citrus, including Citrus Sinensis are self-fertile so a pollinator is 
not normally required. Use a Q Tip or a clean small paint brush to 
pollinate the flowers."
A pollinator is not required, so they proceed to tell you how to be a 
pollinator.
Obviously, they mean a pollenizer is not required?
Effective Pollination: A short course by Richard Norton (tree fruits)
We are thinking of posting a list of nursery/seedsmen that confuse these terms.
Here's the beginning of a nursery/seedsman list that get's it right!
Cummins Nursery
Raintree Nursery - Good Fruit Pollenizer Charts
Hilltop Nursery - Good Pollenizer Charts
Dave Wilson Nursery
Burkard Nurseries
Sierra Gold Nurseries
Sonoma Antique Apple Nursery
Bay Laural Nursery
Edible Landscape Nursery Tropical/subtropical, includes a good list of 
citrus pollenizers
Adams County Nursery
Wafler Nursery
Peaceful Valley Farm Supply Organic fruit trees
Glossary of Pollination Terms
Walnut Varieties for Home Production
Stonefruit Variety Recommendations for warm climates, with pollenizer 
recommendations
Does my fruit tree need a pollenizer? Dr. Mark Rieger has a concise list of 
fruits which include general pollenizer information by fruits. Select 
Botanical description for each fruit category.
Penn State on Choosing a Nursery for Fruit Trees
(Let's Get Our Terms Clear! Part II)

Margaret Lauterbach

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