Re: gardenwriters Digest, Vol 144, Issue 11

**J* l* <j*@gmail.com>**

We will miss Doreen, 

Jeff

Plant a row for the hungry/sent from my phone.

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>   1. garden apps (Jo Ellen Meyers Sharp)
>   2. bees and box store plants (Teri Chace)
>   3. Re: bees and box store plants (Lorraine Ballato)
>   4. Doreen Howard (B. K. Earl)
>   5. Re: Doreen Howard (KTCopsey@aol.com)
>   6. Re: Doreen Howard (Dargan, Mary Palmer)
>   7. Re: bees and box store plants (hamptongar@aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:35:25 -0400
> From: Jo Ellen Meyers Sharp <thehoosiergardener@gmail.com>
> To: GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [GWL] garden apps
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> I?m looking for a couple of people to interview for a story about gardening apps?just need a couple of people who have used an app, what they think, how it worked, etc. Can do by phone or email
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> jems
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:57:15 -0400
> From: Teri Chace <terichace@aol.com>
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [GWL] bees and box store plants
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> The following is circulating on Facebook today, spread about by beekeepers of my acquaintance. Thoughts, dear garden writers?
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> GARDENERS BEWARE: Many of the plants you buy at Home Depot and Lowe's may be treated with bee-killing neonictinoids. Because there's no clear labeling, many good-intentioned gardeners end up poisoning the very bees they are trying to help! http://ow.ly/xakJk (*Home Depot has indicated it is working on safer alternatives, but Lowe's has not yet responded).
> 
> That's just one of the many things you'll learn from our fascinating photo essay featuring beekeepers and experts! Check it out >> http://ow.ly/xakJk  The more you learn, the more you can help protect our bees!
> Help SPREAD this post as part of Bee Week! TELL US >> What alternatives to pesticides do you use in your garden?
> ?#?SAVETHEBEES?
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> Teri Dunn Chace
>      Writer * Editor * Consultant * Speaker
>      537 Garden St.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:21:26 -0400
> From: "Lorraine Ballato" <ladygardener@msn.com>
> To: "Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum"
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> Subject: Re: [GWL] bees and box store plants
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> Teri Chace shared the following from a Facebook posting, asking for our input:
> GARDENERS BEWARE: Many of the plants you buy at Home Depot and Lowe's may be treated with bee-killing neonictinoids. Because there's no clear labeling, many good-intentioned gardeners end up poisoning the very bees they are trying to help! http://ow.ly/xakJk<http://ow.ly/xakJk> (*Home Depot has indicated it is working on safer alternatives, but Lowe's has not yet responded).
> 
> That's just one of the many things you'll learn from our fascinating photo essay featuring beekeepers and experts! Check it out >> http://ow.ly/xakJk<http://ow.ly/xakJk>  The more you learn, the more you can help protect our bees!
> Help SPREAD this post as part of Bee Week! TELL US >> What alternatives to pesticides do you use in your garden?
> ?#?SAVETHEBEES?
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> Hi, Teri!
> 
> Here's what has happened to the best of my knowledge. HD in their infinite wisdom decided to require labeling on all plants that they sell this year that are treated with neonics, no matter when/where they have been treated in their growth cycle. This applies to all plants, not just the flowering ones. They announced this in the trade press earlier this year but I couldn't find out why or what they hope to accomplish by doing this. Not an inexpensive undertaking BTW.
> 
> My expectation is that it will certainly raise the consciousness of some consumers and confuse the dickens out of many. I think I'll see tons of calls into the local extension office for master gardeners about this asking us what to do when a gardener confronts a plant with such a label. 
> 
> Exactly what consumers will do with the info (sometimes new to some of them), I can't imagine. Maybe some will finally get it and stop buying plants that are treated, in which case HD will lose lots of money. 
> 
> If I were running HD, why would I intentionally put info into the hands of consumers that would encourage them not to buy products I sell? You see my confusion about their strategy?? Almost sounds like they want the garden center section of their business to fail and this is part of that strategy unless they have a follow up plan to flood their garden centers with plants that are NOT treated with neonics and give them deferential treatment.  
> 
> The sad truth is that unless the nursery/garden center is organic and you know the plants you buy are grown as such, HD and all other garden center ops are selling plants that have been treated with neonics and one never knows which one is and isn't. Maybe this year the bees will be better off with the new labeling. I think it will only cause confusion because this labeling without any other info leads consumers down a blind alley.  
> 
> Lorraine
> Lorraine Ballato
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:21:40 -0500
> From: "B. K. Earl" <bearl@xnet.com>
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [GWL] Doreen Howard
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> Dear Members,
> 
> It is with a heavy heart I wanted you to know that Doreen Howard passed 
> on this morning.  She died quietly and peacefully at hospice, as was her 
> wish
> 
> Her wish was to be cremated and her ashes scattered in her garden.
> 
> Pete will be posting later on FB with more details.
> 
> Betty
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:47:14 -0400
> From: KTCopsey@aol.com
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Doreen Howard
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> I am so sorry to hear this news. My thoughts are with her family.
> 
> Kate  Copsey
> Garden Writer
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> In a message dated 3/24/2015 2:28:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> bearl@xnet.com writes:
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> Dear  Members,
> 
> It is with a heavy heart I wanted you to know that Doreen  Howard passed 
> on this morning.  She died quietly and peacefully at  hospice, as was her 
> wish
> 
> Her wish was to be cremated and her ashes  scattered in her garden.
> 
> Pete will be posting later on FB with more  details.
> 
> Betty
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:00:30 -0400
> From: "Dargan, Mary Palmer" <mpdargan@dargan.com>
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> Cc: Kate Copsey <KTCopsey@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Doreen Howard
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> ohhhh. She will be missed.
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:47 PM, KTCopsey--- via gardenwriters <
> gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
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>> I am so sorry to hear this news. My thoughts are with her family.
>> 
>> Kate  Copsey
>> Garden Writer
>> _www.katecopsey.com_ (http://www.katecopsey.com/)
>> Host: The Master  Gardener Hour on _www.amercaswebradio.com_
>> (http://www.amercaswebradio.com/)
>> _www.katesgardenjournal.com_ (http://www.katesgardenjournal.com/)
>> _http://renegadeceliac.blogspot.com_
>> (http://renegadeceliac.blogspot.com/2014/08/conference-season-again.html)
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 3/24/2015 2:28:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> bearl@xnet.com writes:
>> 
>> Dear  Members,
>> 
>> It is with a heavy heart I wanted you to know that Doreen  Howard passed
>> on this morning.  She died quietly and peacefully at  hospice, as was her
>> wish
>> 
>> Her wish was to be cremated and her ashes  scattered in her garden.
>> 
>> Pete will be posting later on FB with more  details.
>> 
>> Betty
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 16:51:57 -0400
> From: hamptongar@aol.com
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> Subject: Re: [GWL] bees and box store plants
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> Very interesting.
> 
> 
> As an aside....I run into more and more rural gardeners and small farmers who are isolated from the large commercial farms.  Many of them seem to be getting into beekeeping and raising their own honey and pollinators.  Haven't found one who has had an issue with hive collapse.  Don't get me wrong...not saying it doesn't exist as it clearly does and is a major issue...just saying that those beekeepers that I'm running into who are isolated from commercial farming operations don't' seem to have the problem.  Yes, it's anecdotal, but sure makes me suspicious and wondering why commercial agriculture isn't catching on.
> 
> 
> Andrew Messinger
> The Hampton Gardener
> The Northeast Public Gardener 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Teri Chace via gardenwriters <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Cc: Teri Chace <terichace@aol.com>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 24, 2015 1:58 pm
> Subject: [GWL] bees and box store plants
> 
> 
> 
> The following is circulating on Facebook today, spread about by beekeepers of
> my acquaintance. Thoughts, dear garden writers?
> 
> 
> <<<<<< 
> 
> GARDENERS BEWARE:
> Many of the plants you buy at Home Depot and Lowe's may be treated with
> bee-killing neonictinoids. Because there's no clear labeling, many
> good-intentioned gardeners end up poisoning the very bees they are trying to
> help! http://ow.ly/xakJk (*Home Depot has indicated it is working on safer
> alternatives, but Lowe's has not yet responded).
> 
> That's just one of the many
> things you'll learn from our fascinating photo essay featuring beekeepers and
> experts! Check it out >> http://ow.ly/xakJk  The more you learn, the more you
> can help protect our bees!
> Help SPREAD this post as part of Bee Week! TELL US
>>> What alternatives to pesticides do you use in your garden?
> ?#?SAVETHEBEES?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Teri Dunn Chace
>      Writer * Editor * Consultant * Speaker
>      537
> Garden St.
>        Little Falls, NY 13365
>        315-866-6480 
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