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Re: master gardeners and Scotts?????
I was not a part of the webinar but I do know that Scott's did have a
financial stake in it. As a member and director of GWA, I think that I view
that participation with the same degree of scepticism that I would any other
presentation at a clinic, conference, or seminar. Every statement needs to
be checked against what I know as fact, who I know that's involved, and who
said what about it.
Scott's has been a major sponsor of PAR over the many years. If you were at
Toronto, you saw Horace Hagedorn (since deceased) present a large check to
Bob LaGasse to feed the fund that got it started. Since then they have been
supporters of the program.
Since the board is entirely volunteer, policies have been very strictly
defined in a large manual that we all get. As an "Allied Member," Scott's
is given the same rights of membership to contact the group-at-large as any
other company that pays the freight to have the access.
If you are saying that GWA should exercise editorial control over its allied
members, you will be sadly disappointed in my response. We don't. We
can't. And I wouldn't want to if I could. The members of this list serve
are far more educated on the many and diverse issues that we discuss than
any board could legislate. I think that openess and discussion is by far
the better choice than editorial control. Free markets are healthy
environments.
Kirk
-----Original Message-----
From: gardenwriters-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[g*@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Green
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:57 PM
To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum
Subject: Re: [GWL] master gardeners and Scotts?????
>>Possibly this is one overly eager new Scott's representative that doesn't
> really understand what Master Gardeners and GWA members espouse.
I guess I'm getting confused here. I though GWA was supposed to be
representing writers not promoting any particular point of gardening view -
chemical or organic.
Can somebody from the board please clarify whether GWA received money from
Scotts to promote the water seminar or whether GWA simply facilitated it as
it would any other group wanting to promote it's products. What is board
policy on this kind of issue.
GWA didn't respond to the Gardenrant post and it would seem GWA is being
tarred with a brush of accepting corporate dollars to push a particular
company's agenda.
A clarification from the board would be appreciated here.
Doug.
Douglas Green
Online Garden Publishing
Blog: http://blog.douggreensgarden.com
Home: http://www.simplegiftsfarm.com
On 21-May-08, at 2:20 PM, Sandie Parrott wrote:
> I haven't come across this attempt in the Oakland County Michigan
> Master Gardener group. I agree that it would hugely benefit Scott's
> and is opposed to all Master Gardeners encourage, teach, believe in,
> stand for...etc.
>
> Possibly this is one overly eager new Scott's representative that
> doesn't really understand what Master Gardeners and GWA members
> espouse.
>
> Sandie Parrott
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Harris" <harristakoma@erols.com>
> To: "Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum"
> <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [GWL] master gardeners and Scotts?????
>
>
>> Any association that GWAA, Extension Services or any other respected
>> group has with Scotts gives it respectability and credibilty, and
>> that's a bad thing in my book. Susan
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <KTCopsey@aol.com>
>> To: <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:11 PM
>> Subject: [GWL] master gardeners and Scotts?????
>>
>>
>>> I was at a meeting yesterday and chatting with the Ext agent when
>>> she came up with a big concern. A Scotts company person in the next
>>> county has come up with an idea that the county, and other counties
>>> in GA, rather like.
>>> Scotts
>>> can get us into major retail places such as Walmart and Home Depot
>>> etc.
>>> to
>>> do talks, educate the public. To do so, they have a sponsored
>>> stand by
>>> the
>>> chemical company - we think an outside tent - and MGs are given the
>>> Scott remedy book (or whatever its called). What concerns the
>>> agent is that we are partnering with a chemical agency that is
>>> directly opposed to IPM and low toxicity first.
>>>
>>> So I am curious as to if this is happening in other states or is
>>> Atlanta the first. It also brings to the front the sponsorship of
>>> Scotts with the GWAA.
>>> I know this was controversial and most of us do not endorse their
>>> products,
>>> nor their lawn care mantra. Are we, the low chemical/organic
>>> growers,
>>> becoming such a threat to them, and has the tide turned against
>>> chemicals to such an extent that they are using tactics to curb
>>> us/woe us with sponsorship?
>>>
>>> If this sounds confused, then you are right - I am totally at odds
>>> with what is going on and why is makes good business sense to them.
>>>
>>> Ideas anyone???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kate Copsey
>>> Garden Writer
>>> _www.katecopsey.com_ (http://www.katecopsey.com/)
>>>
>>>
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