Re: gardenwriters Digest, Vol 124, Issue 7

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> Doug....apparently Canada is very weird on these things....In the US, ADIOS is "25b exempt" while in Canada it took 7 years to register for just ragweed!!!!

Hmm,   if by  'Canada is very weird on these things" you mean that it took 7 years to clear all the hurdles, then I'd suggest it might be faster but not less investigative.   

If you're suggesting it's weird because we restrict things, then I'd disagree.  For example, salt is a known killer of invertebrates and there's a restriction on using salt in or near wetlands for that reason. In Canada, that was deemed important but it was not deemed important in the US apparently.  Maybe your invertebrates are tougher? ;-)  Is that what you mean by weird?  

If you're suggesting the organization of the Canadian system run by government employees and scientists is weird, then I'd simply invite you to compare it to that of the USDA and EPA where the decision makers are political appointees.  

Is either system perfect?  Not by a long shot, but I'm not sure it's fair to call it weird.  It's different than the US system and for that, quite frankly, I'm grateful.

> 
> The patent is shared with McGill University. I don't have the MSDS....one version has no spreader sticker and is OMRI...the other has some potassium...stuff used in cattle feed I believe.

The labelling says
Sodium chloride:  basic table salt
Potassium chloride is essentially Muriate of Potash and is a fertilizer
Sodium bicarbonate or baking soda
Potassium carbonate  is salt of tartar - strongly alkaline it is used in industrial processes but is probably being used here to soften the water.

So not sure which of these is used in cattle feed but not important.
And still not clear on the spreader sticker.

As for my questioning - a very long time ago, I had an interesting lesson with an "organic" product and have been a questioner of them ever since.  Somebody says, "This is harmless" and a red flag goes up.  In this case, it comes up on the wetland issue and invertebrates.  Not sure how it impacts on your soil biology either for that matter. Gotta be some impact in the top layers.  

For now, the jury remains out on this material in my opinion.

Doug

> I asked Marco to come on line and answer questions....I hope he does!!!
> 
> New Book is OUT!!!! Whoopie!!!!!!
> 
> teaming jeff
> 
> Plant A Row For The Hungry...and read "TEAMING WITH MICROBES: THE ORGANIC GARDENER'S GUIDE TO THE SOIL FOOD WEB." 
> 
> On May 9, 2013, at 9:00 AM, gardenwriters-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:
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>> What I haven't been able to find is what spreader/sticker they are using.
>> And as I'm sure y'all know, that's the fly in the ointment for a lot of
>> herbicides.
>> 
>> So Jeff, if you have any data on the MSDS and the spreader sticker, I'd be
>> interested in hearing about it.  Or if the data I've gathered is out of
>> date or inaccurate, do let me know
>> 
>> thanks buddy.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Doug Green
>> Head Weeder
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