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Re: Merit related to Colony Collapse Disorder??
I don't understand this. What's a "cutout plastic template for the
bees to use when building a hive?" Why do commercial beekeepers
consider this necessary/desirable?
Carolyn Ulrich
On Sep 2, 2007, at 9:47 PM, The Wild Gardener wrote:
> GWL:There's been another explanation, too. Seems that organic bee
> folks do
> not make cutout plastic templates for the bees to use when building
> a hive
> while the commercial folks, do. The individual cell sizes of bee
> hives vary
> according to many environmental and bee-social conditions and they
> change
> the length of each of the six sides accordingly. But with the
> template,
> everything is identical and something goes amiss with the bees.
> Also, Tom is
> correct that ground water all over the country is being continually
> polluted
> and we've just begun to see the changes that will be wrought down
> the line..
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Alexander" <tom@growingedge.com>
> To: <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [GWL] Merit related to Colony Collapse Disorder??
>
>
>> Whether or not we wait for scientific studies on this chemical crap,
>> a statement in your post below says it all... the chemicals are
>> showing up in the ground water (not only on Long Island but around
>> the world.) Herein lies the problem. People who have no problem
>> eating, drinking and breathing these chemicals; well, they have no
>> problem. However, a growing number of people around the world do have
>> a problem ingesting these chemicals whether they are scientifically
>> safe or not. I have been fortunate to drink very clean well water
>> (that has been tested for chemicals several times over the years)
>> from Oregon foothills or mountains for the past 30 years. Sometimes
>> when I drink municipal water or from other sources, my taste buds can
>> taste the chemicals, sometimes so much so, that I cannot swallow it.
>>
>> Common sense dictates that chemical crap in our water systems is not
>> good. Some people believe "better living through chemicals"; I don't.
>>
>> Especially when these "scientists" are participating in the revolving
>> door policy of our government. Scientists who once worked for the
>> chemical company but now work for the EPA sub contractor or the Dept.
>> of Ag sub contractor are conducting the "scientific study." I have no
>> faith in the scientific study. Money talks and we all ingest chemical
>> crap whether or not it is "scientifically safe."
>>
>> I remember being so naive 30 years ago when I brought some liquid
>> seaweed and dried humic acid to Oregon State University asking an ag
>> professor to do some research on those substances and he laughed
>> almost uncontrollably to my face and said there is no money in that
>> stuff. He said, "We get all of our research money from the chemical
>> companies." In other words, he knew what side his bread is buttered.
>> Could that have influenced the results of his research. I'm sure we
>> will never know but only guess...
>>
>> Tom Alexander
>> tom@growingedge.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2007, at 9:00 AM, gardenwriters-request@lists.ibiblio.org
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 16:47:53 EDT
>>> From: Hamptongar@aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [GWL] Merit related to Colony Collapse Disorder??
>>> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
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>>>
>>> I'm open minded about the link between CCD and Merit...HOWEVER the
>>> references to Imidacloprid as being 'new' raises some other red
>>> flags as this product
>>> has been available in the US for at least 15 years and possibly
>>> longer. From
>>> what I know of it it's not terribly persistent and thus needs to be
>>> reapplied every year when used for grub control...and when it's
>>> applied at the wrong
>>> time...let's say May instead of July in the East...it can be
>>> ineffective due
>>> to it's short active life. Now having said this...and still being
>>> open
>>> minded, I have to add that Suffolk County has banned it's use by
>>> homeowners....but
>>> not due to it's potential affect on bees but because it was
>>> showing up in
>>> ground water...a problem that Long Island had more than 25 years
>>> ago with
>>> aldibarb when it was used to control the Colorado potato beetle.
>>>
>>> So, before we start jumping out of windows...can anyone shed more
>>> light on
>>> the scientific aspects of Imidaclorprid and how it might be
>>> affecting bee
>>> populations?
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Messinger
>>> The Hampton Gardener
>>>
>>> The Hampton Gardener is a Registered Trade Mark
>>> (Published every Thursday in the Southampton Press, The Press and
>>> the
>>> Easthampton Press)
>>
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