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Re: Sowing outside (for Marie)

  • Subject: Re: Sowing outside (for Marie)
  • From: Marie hostas@gmx.at
  • Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:10:13 +0200 (MEST)

> At 04:30 PM 08/01/2002, you wrote:
> >Hi all you experts out there! I found two seedlings today hiding under my
> >undulata albomarginata (one is obviously a FW offspring - still little
> but
> >already showing the characteristic leaf blemishes)...I was thinking: Why
> not
> >sow
> >the seed outside in a seedtray / bed and leave them outside just like
> nature
> >intended? All advice welcome...BYE
> Hi Marie etc...hosta seed sowing, done directly outdoors is easy to do, 
> with many benefits to this procedure:
> <<and this is coming from an amateur seedling growing hobbyist --ie..-- I 
> ain't no expert or professional>>
> --  Like millions of plants can be grown from a given pod-parent, when say
> for example, one is looking for a specific characteristic in a given 
> parent's gene pool, like for example, striated leaves.
>          a)... once upon a time, we grew 50,000 plants from H. sieboldiana
> Elegans, open pollinated seed (looking for streaky kids?) <=> nine
> striated 
> seedlings were found in this batch.
> -- The production cost of growing seedlings directly outdoors: is almost 
> nil, except for the cost of making very preferred growing beds to sow
> seeds 
> into.  Boxed raised beds; fully shaded from direct sun; and preferably 
> screened also, to keep critters (squirrels?) out of, is my suggestion to 
> begin with.
> -- If one uses regular unsterile garden soil, then weeding becomes a 
> hastle, so I use Pro Mix BX (a sterile & soiless growing growing medium)
> in 
> my boxed beds, where seedlings are grown.  This is rather expensive to do,
> since this growing medium costs me about four dollars a cubic foot, but it
> is well worth the initial cost in the long run.  Potting and transplanting
> can be done without use of a shovel.  Squirrels love to hide their goodies
> in Pro Mix hence, I'm saying to screen the whole bed.
> -- Hosta seeds can be sown outside in the Autumn (just before freeze up) 
> and the seedings will sprout the next summer, after soil temperature moves
> above 42* Fahrenheit, or the seeds can be sown in early springtime, as
> soon 
> as the frost comes out of the ground.   Considering all my seed sowing 
> experiments -- I WOULD SAY --
> -- hosta seed germination is not hindered by storing this seed frozen; and
> in fact, STORED FROZEN SEED will sprout 20 years later, which would not be
> possible, if this seed was kept out in the open, say in the regular dry
> and 
> warm conditions of an average house environment.  Hosta seed, will become 
> fully dry and dead within several months, whenever it is not stored via 
> refrigeration.  I store all of my hosta seed frozen, since this is the
> best 
> way to maintain the germination factors, for a long as one wishes (many 
> years?).
> -- the hosta seedlings sprouted directly outdoors, do survive the next 
> winter nicely, even without any mulching.  However, quite often: frost 
> heave, throws these plants onto the surface of the soil, when snow melts 
> completely, but using a mulch of shredded leaves, will prevent this.  If 
> the plants are lying on the growing surface, their roots can be shoved
> back 
> into the growing medium via thumb pushing, and the plants will survive and
> grow nicely in their second year.
> -- Hosta seedlings, which are sown directly outdoors, do generally bloom
> in 
> their second year.
> Final thought, direct outdoor sowing can be done successfully with most 
> perennial genus.
> <just my thoughts, Marie, I hope this helps and good luck>
> Bill Nash Guelph Ontario Canada Zone 4
> MANY MANY MANY THANKS TO YOU, BILL! I had already lost hope that somebody
would post an answer....This helps a lot, and IŽll just try it like that this
year. Keep posting!


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