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RE: Hosta 'Cathy's Clown'

  • Subject: RE: Hosta 'Cathy's Clown'
  • From: michael shelton <wilddog_202@yahoo.com>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:39:10 -0700 (PDT)

There is a process for plant registration and it is
not controled by the Hosta Society. The rules are not
for growers, owners, or consumers.

--- Rod Kuenster <Rod-Kuenster@iowa-city.org> wrote:
> Hi Chick and all, I will have to totally agree with
> you on this Chick. There
> needs to be a much better way to go about naming and
> registering hosta. I
> believe that is why there are so many hosta
> introduced that are not ready to
> be. We need to grow these plants to full size before
> they are introduce.
> Maybe there could be a three step program, first you
> could submit the name,
> then the information about the plant and introduce
> it after full grow? I am
> not sure of how to get this done, but I think that
> the AHS needs to change
> things to make this process help the public out that
> is going to buy these
> plants, and want to know as much about them as
> possible. Just my 2 cents
> worth. Rod Kuenster
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chick [mailto:chick@bridgewoodgardens.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:28 AM
> To: hosta-open@hort.net
> Subject: Re: Hosta 'Cathy's Clown'
> Ok, you got me started anyway.
> It is my understanding that the name 'Cathy's Clown'
> becomes official 
> when it is registered or when it is published and
> the plant is described 
> in a printed catalog.  This last may have been
> changed, but if so, I 
> don't know about it.
> I suggested long ago that there be a system for name
> reservation, as 
> there is for daylily registrations (or at least
> there was when I was a 
> member of that society long ago).  There process had
> limits and 
> restrictions and seemed relatively simple to me.  If
> the plant was not 
> introduced withn a limited time, the reservation was
> void.  I know that 
> some will say that this will lead to all the good
> names being reserved, 
> and I can only respond that it seems to me that this
> is already 
> happening, except that people now have to find a
> plant to register in 
> order to get the name.  There seems to be a
> competition to get the first 
> and last hosta names, and if you register a plant
> named 'Aaaaaaaaaaaah', 
> I will just have to find a plant to name
> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah' so I can 
> be the first listed until you find something to name
> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah'.  What's the
> limit, 35 letters?
> I give my plants names long before I decide to
> introduce them, simply 
> because it is easier for me to remember 'Cathy's
> Clown' than "980205" or 
> some such nonsense.  If other people see the plant
> among my seedlings, 
> there is no way they will remember a number.  If, as
> has happened in 
> many cases, someone else registers the name before I
> am ready to do 
> anything with the plant that's just my hard luck and
> I have to think of 
> another name. Some obviously disagree with me, but I
> don't think that 
> selection, naming, and registration should
> necessarily all happen at the 
> same time.  'Cathy's Clown' has been named for
> several years, the plant 
> was shown at First Look 3 years ago.  But it just is
> not time to 
> introduce or register the plant.  I can come up with
> another name if I 
> have to.  The point is that this plant should be
> under my control until 
> I say it's time to distribute it.  I have never sold
> the plant to anyone 
> and have never authorized anyone else to sell it. 
> I want to emphasize again that I am not faulting
> Hilltop for selling the 
> plant.  But just because it was done unknowingly,
> doesn't mean that it 
> can go any farther.  There is really no way to stop
> anyone from doing 
> whatever they want, but as far as I'm concerned the
> plant that was sold 
> is not my 'Cathy's Clown' unless I say so, and if it
> is sold under that 
> name again, I'll just have to find another name for
> the real plant.  And 
> I will not do so quietly.
> Chick
> Richard Jolly wrote:
> >But Chick, What if I want to name my "special"
> plant "Cathy's Clown"? If
> >it's not registered or patented what stops anyone
> from naming their plant
> >the same name. I wonder what lab did your
> original????????
> >
> >Richard
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