RE: Tetraploids


Jim:

>If you cross tetraploid  (4x) to diploid (2x) you get all 
>triploids((4x -> 2x) + (2x -> 1x) = (3x).

That's assuming you don't have triploid block in hostas.  With 
triploid block the triploid embryos that do get produced are aborted, 
so when you cross a diploid with a tetraploid you don't get any seeds. 
However, if the diploid is producing unreduced gametes, then that is 
the same as a gamate from a tetraploid, so then all the seedlings from 
a diploid crossed with a tetraploid will be tetraploid because the 
diploid is behaving like a teraploid.

The problem with tetraploids in hostas that I can see is that I can't 
easily see them!  With daylilies and also lilies you can look at the 
plant and often, but not always, get an idea if it is a tetraploid.  
In daylilies there is triploid block, but there is no triploid block 
in lilies.  I thought at one time Ben said that hostas had triploid 
block.  It would be easy enough to check if you have some hostas you 
know are tetraploids.

Joe Halinar


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