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Re: ? 'Urajiro Hachijo'

  • Subject: Re: ? 'Urajiro Hachijo'
  • From: margaret@golden.net
  • Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:07:49 -0500 (EST)

Quoting Bill Nash <raffi@sympatico.ca>:

> Chick & Jim..this ain't going to mean much, except to possibly make this
> question even more mysterious, but I recall seeing and photographing
> something called H. Rupifraga 'Urajiro' in the Ed Elslager garden, at Ann
> Arbor Convention bus tour; which had me wondering, if there was a white
> backed rupifraga?
> "urajiro" in the Japanese language refers to "white backing on leaves" does
> it not; and perhaps, some are making use of Japanese naming/re-naming?..FOR
> EXAMPLE:  One upon a time, a long long time ago, in a land not so far away
> (right here!) a well known Nursery-person in Canada, sold me a very rare
> hosta from Japan, charging me $25.00 for a single eye'd-plant called H.
> 'Suji Giboshi'.   By cross-checking in 'The Genus Hosta' book, I saw that
> this is H. undulata 'Univitata' --- NEAT TRICK!...don't you think? LOL!
> {{B>))
>               bill nash, canada
> At 05:09 PM 03/01/2002, you wrote:
> >Hi Jim.
> >
> >Haven't seen you in ages!  I just went to Florida for a few days.  Not my
> >kind of place.
> >
> >My question was prompted by the listing in the auction of H. ruprifraga
> >'Urajiro Hachijo'.  I wondered if it had been reclassified, or whether it
> >was a different plant than the one you gave me.  I grow the species
> >ruprifraga, but if I remember, my ruprifraga is significantly larger than
> >the plant you gave me, so I doubted the listing and assumed it was really
> >a longipes.  Then I looked in Georges book and his description of the two
> >species indicate that the leaf size is the same for both.  Now I'm totally
> >confused, but I at least come to the conclusion that the correct name for
> >the plant being auctioned is longipes, that it is the same plant you gave
> >me, and there is no fuprifraga 'Urajiro Hachijo'.
> >
> >At least I think that's what I think.
> >
> >Chick
> >
> >james hawes wrote:
> >>Chick,
> >>
> >>So now you are back from Florida a want to know about 'H. Urajiro
> Hachigo'.
> >>The plant you got from me was acquired from Japan. It was a collectors'
> item
> >>even there,  having become extinct in the wild.. It now exists in gardens
> >>only, so I understand.
> >>It is not the same as H. rupifraga.
> >>Jim Hawes
> >>
> >>
> >>Chick wrote:
> >>
> >> > I don't know if Jim is listening and I don't have his e-mail, but if
> >> > you're out there Jim, or anybody else that might know....
> >> >
> >> > Several years ago Jim gave me a plant of what I have labeled as
> longipes
> >> > latifolia 'Urajiro Hachijo', which looks very much like the plant on
> the
> >> > auction which is labeled rupifraga.  Is this the same plant?
> >> >
> >> > Chick
> >> >
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