Re: Hosta Buds

Dear Jean Carpenter,

You asked a series of questions about "buds" in your post of May 3. I
can repeat a couple of posts written back in August 1998 discussing this
subject. I will repeat the two posts independently. I hope the
information answers some of your questions.
> 
> >
> > Good Morning, Robins...
> >
> > Sometimes I initiate an e-mail discussion, sometimes I react. This one
> > is a reaction type. My apologies if it becomes a little longwinded and a
> > wee bit technical. It deals with my natural reaction to several previous
> > discussions made on "second flushes", bud cuttings, saving streaky forms
> > that have reverted, and similar related subjects which touch on hosta
> > morphology and physiology. I do not recall if the previous posts
> > emanated from the OLG, hosta-open or AHSE-MAIL Robin. It doesn't matter
> > except that my response may not go to all groups unless someone on any of
> > these groups takes the intiative to direct it there...(I do not want to
> > be an e-mail traffic cop directing cyberspace traffic).........but that
> > is another problem which I will not address herein.
> >
> > I want to talk (figuratively speaking) about the slightly incorrect
> > impressions which were laid on us by several participants in the various
> > discussions about "buds". Let me summarize these  impressions in a
> > manner which paraphrases the conclusions that were presented ( and
> > probably accepted because the subjects were not discussed further).
> > Several terms were used (IMHO) in a slightly incorrect fashion which
> > perhaps  further lead us toward incorrect conclusions. My purpose is to
> > try to diplomatically correct, modify, explain some of these
> > misinterpretations which may have arisen without starting a WAR. This is
> > not about personalities.......it is about concepts regarding plants,
> > their structure, functions and how we describe them.
> >
> > An anonomous Robin in responding to a question asked  about "second
> > flushes of growth" described it as a  "forcing of side shoots, being a
> > response of the plant to the failure to produce seed......(being) a
> > second try"................
> >
> > TO WHICH A SECOND GUY, WHO SHALL ALSO REMAIN ANONOMOUS,ASKED IN
> > UPPER-CASE LETTERS.......
> >    "DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF I TERMINATE THE SCAPE....AND IT FORCES ITS
> > DORMANT BUDS TO TRY AGAIN....WILL I HAVE MORE DIVISIONS IN THE SPRING??"
> >
> > That's when I threw up my hands and exclaimed.....this explanation is
> > too anthropomorphic, and furthermore, the terms used (for example, in
> > this case the term "dormant buds", give the wrong impression of what is
> > occurring morphologically and physiologically within the plant. The
> > discussion continued and evolved into questions being asked and answered
> > about bud cuttings, isolating buds.....then about streakiness being lost
> > and attempts made to recapure it by various means. The term "resting
> > buds" arose in the discussion to further complicate the physiological
> > phenomena involved.And no one caught the errors being made in describing
> > the bud "UNDER THE LEAF PETIOLE". ( If you have excised as many as I
> > have, you will know why I suggest that they be described as being
> > ABOVE...or in the axil of the petiole..... not below it.I lurked along
> > in the discussions even while in Canada, reading on Bill's computer in
> > the evenings but decided to await the final outcome and my return home
> > before entering the intellectual fray about buds. My name was mentioned
> > somewhere among the numerous messages so perhaps that means its my turn
> > and obligation to comment next.
> >
> > Since this message is getting long, I prefer to break it into two parts.
> > This part describes the background of the discussion so far. The next
> > installment represents my contribution to its continuation. OK?
> > (To Be Continued Later Today)...........................
> >
> > Jim Hawes Oakland MD
> > hawesj@gcnet.net


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