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Re: new flower scapes are there!

I am in no way critical of bud cutters, but, except for plants that are slow to
multiply, I have found that the new plants are so slow to grow that I'm not sure
what is gained.  I admit that I haven't done much of it, so maybe my experiences
are not typical, but it seems that whenever I try any of these techniques, the
resulting plants are so small and take so long to mature that I don't see what
I've gained.

If I cut a plant and get 10 pieces, and those take 2 years to mature, then
wouldn't I have just as much or more at the end of 2 years by dividing the plant
normally at the end of the first and dividing the resulting plants again at the
end of the second year?

I know Alex likes to make as many plants as he can to give away and spread
around, and this method makes a lot of small plants fast, but are you getting
better results over the long run than I did?


Dan Nelson wrote:

> When propagating by the bud cutting technique the flower bud Ben is talking
> about is treated just like the other dormant buds. Each dormant bud and the
> dormant flower scape are divided from one another, each piece gets some of
> the main rhizome and some root mass, and each piece is planted about 1/2
> inch deep. The dormant flower scape is almost always larger than the dormant
> buds. Each will form a new plant the following spring. This is most easily
> done on a single division plant.
> Dan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hosta-open@mallorn.com
> [mailto:owner-hosta-open@mallorn.com]On Behalf Of zonneveld
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 5:05 AM
> To: zonneveld@RULBIM.Leidenuniv.nl
> Cc: hosta-open@mallorn.com
> Subject: Re: new flower scapes are there!
> As I cannot imaging that nobody finds this interesting I sending it
> again
> Last year I reported finding a flowerscape in a bud of Elegans in
> december. I just did cut up a bud of elegans after first removing the
> leaves+ petioles from the bud  I did take a non flowering/podbearing
> shoot. First here was besides the main thick  3cm long bud a
> small 1cm bud Cutting in half the fat bud I found the flowerstalk
> meristem already developing! It has a size of 2 x 1 mm  ( you need
> a microscope to see it!) It  was surrounded by thin greenish-white
> leaves The bud scales made up 90 % of the bud so everything is
> very well protected.  If the scapes are already there you can next
> spring fertilize every day, but only those scapes allready formed
> this summer will develop into flowers next year!
> Yet I suppose only a few of the scapes get a full development next
> year  , but by transplanting or cutting up you might induce flowers
> in shoots were the young scape has not started to develop yet.
> Ben J.M.Zonneveld
> Clusius lab pobox 9505
> 2300 RA Leiden
> The Netherlands
> mintemp-16C(5F)
> Zonneveld@RULbim.LeidenUniv.NL
> Fax: 31-71-5274999
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