Re: Request for Appeal
At 07:57 AM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Jim Hawes wrote:
> > To: AHSE-MAILRobin Committee.
> > I wish to face my accusers, if not face to face, at least computer to
> > computer to discuss facts with the Committee or anyone else involved.
> > I want my accusers, you, the Committee, to point out specifically what
> > I have said, which represents what you claim is a continuing public
> > personal attack on some one individual which holds him up to ridicule
> > and contempt because he holds views different from mine. I use your
> > words to try to construct what I think you have charged me. But I want
> > specifics.And I also want to be shown where I have repeated this offense
> > which resulted in my suspension.
> > I want the opportunity to address these specific charges. I have a right
> > as a member of the AHS in good standing to make use of AHS facilities.
> > You have taken away these rights without cause and have made me a member
> > in bad standing based on your faulty judgments, to which I object..
> > I consider your charges a mistake and I wish to be given the opportunity
> > to prove this.
> > I want this appeal to be heard (seen) in public, in writing, using any
> > format which is fair, not in the darkness of AHS Robin privacy.
> > I want interested public observers to be in electronic attandance to
> > determine for themselves that justice is served.
> > I will submit myself to questioning by the Committee or will provide any
> > information needed to reach the true facts.
> > I promise to abide by the judgments of the Committee if the appeal
> > hearing is open, fair and just. So far, any deliberations if they
> > actually occurred, have been closed, unfair and unjust.
> > If you and the Secret Committee do not agree to my reasonable appeal for
> > a hearing , then everyone will know that you are avoiding an open , fair
> > appeal hearing to seek truth and justice.
> > We, on both sides , can stand on equal ground and defend our positions.
> > There is no avoidance that observers will influence and demand a fair
> > hearing to bring about justice. I do not fear this judgment because I
> > know I am innocent of personal attacks as you claim in general terms.
> > If my request for an appeal hearing is not forthcoming, then observers
> > will recognize the character of this refusal
> > If you do not respect my demands in this appeal, I will consider it a
> > personal assault to my intelligence, integrity, persona and my rights
> > as an individual member , no less human than you. I challenge your
> > rights to make judgments without an explanation. You have no right to
> > control all matters as you wish to interprete them without an
> > explanation.
> > Inaction on my request for an appeal hearing will result in further
> > escalation of the severity of the injustices being imposed. I demand
> > fairness at a minimum.
> > Jim Hawes
> > Formerly, an AHS Member in good standing.
> > Note: I suggest that any member of any listserver may make this appeal
> > for a fair hearing known to the hosta community at large by whatever
> > means they wish to use.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To all AHS robin members:
>I forward the above with out addtional comment.
>>--------->> With regard to Jim Hawes' -->> ***Request for Appeal?***
shown above; and in the event, the Chairman, is going to rule that motion
out of order, due to lack of a seconder; therefore, I elect/choose to
"SECOND THE MOTION" put forward by Jim Hawes? And/or if this same
Chairman, plans to rule the motion "out of order" because members in bad
standing on the AHS ROBIN cannot make motions on the AHS ROBIN and/or
elsewhere, then I would like to bring this onto the AHS ROBIN floor, as a
motion. I am a member in good standing within the AHS Robin; my AHS
affiliation-fees are fully paid ...and I thank y'all in advance?
William Nash Guelph Ontario CA <firstname.lastname@example.org>
I would like to quote a poem taken from 'The Art of Loving' (Eric Fromm)
and this is particularly dedicated to the HE not THEY i.e. Jim Hawes:
THEY who know nothing? ..love nothing!
They who love nothing? ..understand nothing!
And they who understand nothing are USELESS!
also loves notices sees..
..and the more knowledge inherent in a thing?
THE GREATER THE LOVE FOR IT!
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