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Re: [IGSROBIN] red crawlers


You asked:

"Where are they crawling and are they eating holes in the leaves?  Also have
you noticed any adverse effects on any of your plants from the Isotox?  I
sprayed my entire collection with wettable power Orthene two weeks ago and
no signs of toxic effects on anything.  I'll spray again tomorrow due to a
few mealy bugs here and there.  I want to get RID of those !@#@$@##@ bugs!
Phil Bunch"

They are crawling on the main stem which, as you know with P. paniculatum,
is succulent. They were concentrated in the shrivelled top six inches of an
eighteen inch stem and were disguised by the crevices in the shrunken
surface. That is why I missed them - apart from the fact that they are
really small. By the way, they are more like 1 mm long and a fifth of that
wide. They are not eating leaves as there are no leaves to be eaten! The
plant did not come out of dormancy but started shrinking very slowly, at the

So far, I have not seen any sign of damage by Isotox. I just hope I'll see
benefits. If I see any more signs I'll try Orthene or perhaps I'll try
Sunspray Oil, which I have found works well on a lot of insects. I do not
have mealies on any of my succulents just now, or any of the pels or sarcs
for that matter. But I have seen them on Eremophilas as well as young
amaryllids I'm raising. Isotox cleared them up on the woody Eremophilas but
the oil was more effective on the bulbs. It also took care of black aphis
that started to show up on my Oxalis which are in flower just now. By the
way, I am told there two types of mealies, those aboveground and those
below. With bulbs the latter is devastating. My tuberous pels are free of

San Diego, California

>Today I found some very small red crawlers on my Pelargonium paniculatum.
>They are about 2 mm long and a fifth of that across. This is the only plant
>so afflicted. It did not emerge from dormancy about four months ago like
>others. Then the main stem (about 18 inches tall) began to shrivel. I
>stopped watering, examined the roots and everything seemed in good shape
>below ground. It is in a mix of sand, pumice and some sandy soil.
>So, it looks as though these crawling nasties are at least partners in
>if not wholly resposible for it. I have doused the plant with the systemic
>Based on what I have said can anyone offer a lead on the criminal?
>San Diego, California

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