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Re: [IGSROBIN] red crawlers


Perhaps your red crawlers are red spider mites, in which case a miticide
would be effective.  With red spider you often see very fine webs or strands
of webbing.

Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew <awilson@FDA.NET>
To: IGSROBIN@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU <IGSROBIN@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Date: Sunday, January 17, 1999 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: red crawlers


>Phil,
>
>You asked:
>
>"Where are they crawling and are they eating holes in the leaves?  Also
have
>you noticed any adverse effects on any of your plants from the Isotox?  I
>sprayed my entire collection with wettable power Orthene two weeks ago and
>no signs of toxic effects on anything.  I'll spray again tomorrow due to a
>few mealy bugs here and there.  I want to get RID of those !@#@$@##@ bugs!
>Phil Bunch"
>
>They are crawling on the main stem which, as you know with P. paniculatum,
>is succulent. They were concentrated in the shrivelled top six inches of an
>eighteen inch stem and were disguised by the crevices in the shrunken
>surface. That is why I missed them - apart from the fact that they are
>really small. By the way, they are more like 1 mm long and a fifth of that
>wide. They are not eating leaves as there are no leaves to be eaten! The
>plant did not come out of dormancy but started shrinking very slowly, at
the
>top.
>
>So far, I have not seen any sign of damage by Isotox. I just hope I'll see
>benefits. If I see any more signs I'll try Orthene or perhaps I'll try
>Sunspray Oil, which I have found works well on a lot of insects. I do not
>have mealies on any of my succulents just now, or any of the pels or sarcs
>for that matter. But I have seen them on Eremophilas as well as young
>amaryllids I'm raising. Isotox cleared them up on the woody Eremophilas but
>the oil was more effective on the bulbs. It also took care of black aphis
>that started to show up on my Oxalis which are in flower just now. By the
>way, I am told there two types of mealies, those aboveground and those
>below. With bulbs the latter is devastating. My tuberous pels are free of
>pests.
>
>Andrew
>San Diego, California
>
>>Today I found some very small red crawlers on my Pelargonium paniculatum.
>>They are about 2 mm long and a fifth of that across. This is the only
plant
>>so afflicted. It did not emerge from dormancy about four months ago like
>the
>>others. Then the main stem (about 18 inches tall) began to shrivel. I
>>stopped watering, examined the roots and everything seemed in good shape
>>below ground. It is in a mix of sand, pumice and some sandy soil.
>>
>>So, it looks as though these crawling nasties are at least partners in
>crime
>>if not wholly resposible for it. I have doused the plant with the systemic
>>Isotox.
>>
>>Based on what I have said can anyone offer a lead on the criminal?
>>
>>Andrew
>>San Diego, California





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