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Re: Pruning- Ancestor roses-Propagation


-----Original Message-----
From: rosenlund <rosenlund@transport.com>
To: Rose-List <rose-list@eskimo.com>
Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: Pruning- Ancestor roses-Propagation


>[regarding Fragrant Cloud]
>It's my understanding that most hybrid teas are difficult to
>propagate.

Not so! All it requires are patience, disease-free stock, and practice!



 I have only tryed old or own-root roses cuttings. My first
>success (about 5 years ago) was a stick about 12 inches long and the
>thickness of a pencil. My mother brought it too me, in the early fall
>I think. She told me to put it in the dirt, laying it horizontallly
>and cover the whole thing about 3 or 4 inch of dirt. I though she was
>nuts. But next spring I had all kinds of little canes a coming off of
>it.

These are called "hardwood" cuttings, and it is easier than softwood,
although slower. These can be planted outside in areas where the ground
doesn't freeze in winter, or planted in pots and stored in the garage until
spring. Check out the ARS website, http://www.ars.org  for Part One of the
FAQ, which contains a detailed description of one method for taking softwood
cuttings. Also, I post it to rec.gardens.roses on a monthly basis.

-Dave-

>
>My aunt started my great grandma Sophie's grave rose. She just put
>10-12 inch early fall cuttings in a jar of plain water and placed it
>in a cool dark place. In spring, she potted those that rooted. She
>has a 9 year old rose bush from it, my mother's is 7 years old, Mine
>is just 2 years old. Plus the original roses that is on the grave and
>about 91 years old. Eek, that is old. It has struggle to say alive.
>My aunt took cuttings as she thought it might die. They have since
>taken over the very old cemetery and the charming rose is now
>thriving under huge Fir trees. They have fought off nearby developers
>and changed laws to protect cemeteries. (We call it the Sophie Rose.)
>
>Great grandma Sophie was given this rose just two years before she
>died (I'm told) as a gift for the death of her two year old son that
>rests at her feet. She was only 37 years old with 9 children and died
>with child. My grandfather was the youngest, 2 and was then raised by
>his father's cousin. Most of the children were "farmed out".
>
>Anyone else try propagating roses like these ?
>Perhaps I should try some of their methods. Lot less hassle.
>What methods have you tryed Ray ?
>Do you have more than one Fragrant Cloud ?
>I think I would want many just incase.
>
>I do have one cutting (trimming) that I just couldn't pitch, so I
>stuffed it into the ground, top up and nothing  covering it. I think
>it might be taking. It's been in the ground a month and 1/2.
>
>Sincerely,
>Carleen Rosenlund of Rainier, Oregon -USDA-8
>Sweetbriar - Keeper of Sheep & Old Roses
>----------
>> From: Ray Cooper <raycooper@xtra.co.nz>
>> To: rose-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: Pruning- Ancestor roses
>> Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 11:08 PM
>
>> That was the amazing thing about this special rose. One cutting,
>one
>> chance and it worked. Remember I am a beginner, but every person I
>have
>> talked to says this type of rose is fairly difficult to grow this
>way.
>> Ray
>
>
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