[Rose-list] Re: Roses and Vines

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Love gardens just outside the windows. Thinking of redoing my 
weavingroom for it's ''viewing value''.  

That's true, colder climates may handle the ivy in a different way.
Go for it, Julie.  If not ''insulation'' value (love these
justifications..) than a yes for the delightful overgrown look.  

Again, I easily kill stuff in containers, even out where they can get
rain they don't do well for me (or should I say, I don't do well by
them..)  My mother just informed me (as many of her plants and roses
are grown in containers) that you should set them several inches (the
pot bottoms) into the soil so that they don't dry out as well. OH. 

Summer last year at HOGR's RoseFest sale, I bought 6 new and (very
small plants this time) climbers. I planted one in a permanent spot
at an arbor and the other 5 in a more sheltered area of my garden. 
Their "places" on the rambler trellis is full exposure to the wind
and I have yet to remove the gravel before I can plant them.  The one
planted at the arbor is a bit smaller than when I got it poor thing.
It will survive fine, but just slower to get there. The other 5 did
much better and are just now getting some good height on them.

I prefer to buy any of the small HOGR's before summer so that they
have time to establish before colder weather, especially true it
appears with these ramblers.  Other shrub roses bought at that time
are doing much better than these wee climbers.  Of course a 50% off
Summer sale is hard to resist.  So I will keep this area of my garden
for such newbies.  Hey.. some plastic hoops might even sweeten the 
deal.  Another vote for a greenhouse.. my poor loom is less inviting 
with all this garden mania and just may pay for a greenhouse. Hum..

If your thinking of ''new stock'' as newly propagated cuttings... I
haven't made one yet, but a cold frame on a misting system would be
my answer, I killed over 200 cuttings last year for poor watering and
set up, some survived several months. Perhaps a greenhouse could
remedy that too. Not to mention the over 100 tomatoes and peppers I
grew on a table, under the skylights, in front of a sliding door, in
my bedroom. :-P   [Most went to garden club sale].

Sincerely,       
~Carleen~
Keeper of Sheep & Old Roses

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