RE: [Rose-list] Re: roses and companion perennials/shrubs

**"* A* <j*@classic.msn.com>**

I've never been lucky to have red valerian survive past one season. I've 
followed all the directions to the letter. I've given up.

John Adney
Marion, Iowa (on the line of zones 4-5)

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From: 	rose-list-admin@mallorn.com on behalf of Saxton, Susan
Sent: 	Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:53 AM
To: 	'rose-list@mallorn.com'
Subject: 	RE: [Rose-list] Re: roses and companion perennials/shrubs

I had always read that centranthus ruber (red varlerian or Jupiter's Beard)
gets out of hand too.  I would drool in garden slides when they'd show it,
but stoutly tell myself "no"!  

About 2 years I finally caved in and have never been sorry.  PLEASE CONSIDER
I MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME GROWING CONDITIONS AS YOU, but I do enrich my soil
every year and summer water.  Mine is growing in a west facting sloped bed
and has already started blooming and won't quit until frost.  In two years
I've never had one seedling (oh I wish, I wish).  This would be particularly
nice because the plant itself is too woody to divide as you normally would a
perennial.

So after asking some locals in your area about jupiter's beard, plant away!

Susan Saxton, zone 6b
For mine is a little old fashioned garden where the flowers come
together to praise the Lord and teach all who look upon them to do
likewise.
Celia Thaxter

I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rosenlund [r*@transport.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 11:02 PM
> To: Rose-List
> Subject: [Rose-list] Re: roses and companion perennials/shrubs
> 
> 
> Hum... 2-4 feet tall.... How about foxgloves, delphiniums or white
> campanula mediums (cup and saucers) with blue salvia, pink and white
> lilies, purple monkshood go's wonderfullly with deep fuchsia of F.J.
> Grootendorst (a rugosa). First time to bloom will be tall Valerian
> (told they can really get out of hand) along with bee balm, and just
> added some iris's in front of the climbers on the rambler trellis.
> Pineapple sage is gorgeous in red long blooms, it can get rather big
> (say 4 feet tall x 3 feet wide) and usually doesn't survive winters,
> but mine was in a sheltered spot and is coming back... Also
> delightful in tea, light pineapple taste.
> 
> Sincerely,       
> ~Carleen~
> Keeper of Sheep & Old Roses
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> > From: Jeaa1224@aol.com
> > To: rose-list@mallorn.com
> > Subject: Re: [Rose-list] Re: roses and companion perennials/shrubs
> > Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 11:19 AM
> > 
> > Carleen:
> > 
> > I was thinking about anything from, say, 2' to 4' in height...was
> thinking of 
> > using clethra but it prefers an acidic and dampish soil. Something
> that 
> > flowers and has
> > attractive but contrasting foliage to the roses and would get along
> well with 
> > the rose's
> > requirements would be perfect. And maybe a tidy vase shape or round
> shape 
> > rather than a sprawling profile. Any ideas anyone?
> > 
> > Joanie, Z.5a
> > 
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