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RE: Old Rose Program
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- Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:35:49 -0800
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> actually, I don't know too much about old roses to give you a list
of those
> that bloom throughout the season.
I have just one old rose that is truly "non-stop blooming" since I
got her (early this spring) and healthy too, it's Boule do Neige.
> Furthermore, what constitutes an "old rose"? There are new roses
with the
> old form (notably the Austin roses), so what can I safely refer to
as an
> old rose? I might be totally off base with my thinking!
>
> Val in KY
> zone 6a
Old roses are pre-1867; the year that Hybrid Teas moved on the scene.
David Austin's Roses are "fashioned" after old roses, but ARE modern
roses and are referred to as English or modern shrub roses. They
indeed have raised a new interest in old fashion roses, making even
old rose more available to the public.
Before 1990, I hadn't seen old roses or English easily available.
Today I can find English roses at my local Fred's. English roses have
much of the old rose charm about them. Most with repeat and
continuous blooming. Yet, I suspect (true in my garden) that some
are not going to stand the test of time that many of our old roses
have.
Of course we have lost many, many hundreds of old roses also, but
Beales points out that that's not all bad. Inferior roses would
naturally be tossed out for hardy and healthier ones. [now to really
make "enemies", a thought to ponder; would love FRIENDLY discourse.]
If you love your Hybrid Teas, you might horde them up now, in 20-
50 years, they might be making a come back. Course with all the
Societies and Showings, I'm sure they'll not drop totally out of the
public eye. Just a thought.
Sincerely,
Carleen Rosenlund of Rainier, Oregon -USDA-8
Sweetbriar - Keeper of Sheep & Old Roses
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